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Bug#778973: as a user makes lot of sense to me.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 05:44:16AM +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>at bottom :-
>On 2/23/15, Brian Potkin <claremont102@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon 23 Feb 2015 at 04:08:47 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>>> As a newbie, I do remember the confusion and had to ask people on the
>>> #debian channel and then also was not sure so downloaded the 1st DVD
>>> to get the installer working. It should make it easier to understand
>>> as what is needed/essential.
>> Please say in what way
>>    https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/
>> does not disperse any confusion.
>> Regards,
>> Brian.
>It does disperse, but you are putting faith that when a person is
>confused he will rush straight to the FAQ. I don't think it does
>happen like that.
>What would be good if there were some stats. of people who went to CD
>page and then successfully downloaded the CD/DVD image.
>At least on the page linked
>(http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ or even
>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/) there doesn't
>seem to no way to tell to the user that your answer is an FAQ which is
>located somewhere else.
>So either the page should have a link to the FAQ at the very least if
>that argument has to be told.
>It would be difficult for anybody to take that jump from where s/he is
>to where you are pointing.
>I *think* instead of just going back and forth if there are any stats.
>on successful downloads would be glad to know those.
>@Hideki Yamane - now playing Devil's advocate from the other side -
>Actually if you look at https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ it does
>state in 'bold' that the first disk has what is needed for normal
>desktop application.
>For a normal new user who comes, he would probably land up at
>https://www.debian.org/distrib/ and from there to
>If anything has to rejigged, it probably would be on the CD page.
>If I were a clueless newbie for instance, I woul have liked to have
>the http/ftp more up the order rather than jigdo or torrents, as these
>would be familiar only to a person who has worked with torrents or
>jigdo (meaning somewhat familiarity with Debain process).
>Looking forward to both as you both think how a 'normal' user would
>try to download from and will he get the required info.

I've just committed code to generate HEADER.html files on cdimage.d.o
for the typical image download locations. This is much easier for us
to do than change the image file names, and saves on the extra chaos
that would cause for the -www team when trying to link to things.

Please take a look and tell me what you think. An example directory is


- take a look at the directories underneath there...

Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
  Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there
  must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the
  far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled
  knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer

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