All, Why is beryl not part of the Etch testing DVDs ? Is there any particular reason ? I installed beryl and it is a wonderful environment. although there are some problems still in the WM, still for Etch/testing it will be a good candidate ... -- Bhasker C V Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org) The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux.