Re: Planned obsolescence ? (was: Re: Architecture baseline for Forky)
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 09:35:00AM +0000, Jan-Daniel Kaplanski wrote:
It's a really good point though about x86-64-v1. There are still thousands of Core2Duo systems out there. Anything pre-Nehalem just isn't x86-64-v2 compliant.
These systems basically flooded the used marked and are an entry point to low-cost computing for many. It's hard to justify locking out these users before support is dropped in the mainline Kernel.
Or before support noticeably declines. I agree with that.
But I also see that Bastian might have deliberately worded his message
in a way that would prompt some discussion. No bill leaves parliament
as it entered parliament.
It's only RHEL that's really pushing for it AFAIK. From their perspective it's reasonable, because of the the marginal performance gains that would benefit their customers. For anyone else it just isn't.
I agree that Debian should not orient itself along Enterprise Linuxes'
commercial decisions. We should orient ourselves along what toolchain
and kernels reasonably support, acknowledging that this is hard to
determine years in advance.
I would be fine with a statement "these and these architectures might
lose their support with Debian's 2029 release" IF we can optionally
decide to postpone that date for certain architectures if we find,
preparing for the 2029 release, that there still is reasonable support.
Greetings
Marc
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