According to Brent Fulgham:
> > By only gripe about the ports suite came into the glare
> > when I upgraded from FreeBSD 2.2.8 to v3.2 recently.
> > There a bunch of GNU things that I'd like to install.
> > The gnome package(s), for one; and more to the point,
> > gIDE.
> > The ports method screwed me up (or I screwd up myself,
> > perhaps) by having some ports and libraries built the
> > old a.out way, and the rest ELF.
> Did you choose to use a.out, or did they "come" that way?
Priot to FreeBSD 3.0, everything was a.out. So
everything that was pre-installed came that way.
Finally, finally, last fall, FBSD went ELF.
Rebuilding isn't rocket-science; it just takes time.
Well, everything takes time, :-)
> To answer your other question, Debian does have tools for
> user-build of packages. We do this for the Linux Kernel, so
> a relative newby can just make some selections and off it
> goes. It's very helpful in terms of making sure you've
> remembered the C compiler, the binutils, the C-preprocessor,
> the linker, etc. ,etc., etc. These things can trip people
> up in the beginning.
> If the BSD community was interested, it should be possible
> to create a "native" dpkg that would identify Linux packages
> and place them in /compat/linux/debian or similar, and
> recognize BSD "packages" (perhaps all source-only) and place
> them in /src (or wherever BSD tends to place these things).
> The creators of the BSD source "package" would then need to
> place dependencies for the various tools and libraries needed
> to build their program.
This is exclusively my opinion, but I would rather
integrate whatever we can... If the BSD side would
rather have, say,
for the actual source code, that's fine with me. I honestly
don't care that much where the sources or binaries are; and
I think it would be a waste of time to argue about the
As for having the source code or not, the reason I want it
is because I'm a hacker; people who aren't probably could
not care less... .
> > I don't want to spent the hours|days figuring out all
> > the dependencies and deleting each and rebuilding....
> > ....but that's about the only way.
> > At least a DebianBSD wouldn't have these problems.
> Yes -- that is a great benefit of DPKG. In my experience, even
> RedHat's RPM does not do as good of a job. But a large part of
> that is POLICY, and that's what counts.
That's a roger!
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