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Re: deb822 support [.sources for apt] in d-i



Hello all,

On 25/05/2025 05:47, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Marc Haber <mh+debian-boot@zugschlus.de> (2025-05-15):
Has anybody talked to the apt maintainers whether they would be willing to
disable the deprecation warnings for the release, allowing one (more?) cycle
where the two formats are equal citizens? The deprecation warnings we had in
the last months has stirred us up, the installer is moving now, and the
other packages as well¹, so the focus could be shifted to a smooth release
now and going back to the nag warnings after the release?

You forgot the spoiler alerts! (That was my backup plan.)


After 10 days, I've only heard about Philip Hands (thanks!) with some idea
about how to approach the transition, and we agreed it's actually really
not trivial… and of course you, Marc.

Sorry for not replying sooner. After the MiniDebConf in Hamburg I was travelling for week and still have not fully caught up with the mail backlog.

Going for full dep822 support is definitely worth the effort. Just running 'apt-get modernize' at appropriate times might work for suitably simple installations, but the devil is in the details (e.g. expert installer mode). Looking at live-build (for which I'm a maintainer), there is quite some work to do, and that's not trivial [1].

Having the warning in apt definitely has woken us up. The migration to dep822 should be finished soon, but I wouldn't like to delay the release of trixie for this. However, bothering all new installations of trixie with this warning seems to me to be unfair to the end users.

I would support the proposal to have a version of apt without the warning, just for the trixie release. Immediately after trixie is released, the warning can be turned on again for forky (or even during a specific point release, if that were allowed).

With kind regards,
Roland Clobus

[1] A tiny first step is already in live-build: https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit/f08dae6074e54c6331871bb8f29aabdbb54d1dc1

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