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Re: Splitting udev-udeb out of src:systemd



Hi Luca,

Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> (2025-05-12):
> In https://release.debian.org/britney/hints/freeze I see:
> 
> block-udeb systemd
> block-udeb systemd-udeb
> 
> but the first one should no longer be there, right? Would it be
> possible to amend it, please?

Absolutely:

    commit c6faf50ca3228b81d680f06a98ede58c746b5030 (HEAD -> ftp-master)
    Author: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>
    Date:   Mon May 12 21:33:03 2025 +0000
    
        freeze_hints: remove systemd
        
        Thanks to Luca Boccassi for the reminder!
        
        Link: https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2025/05/msg00119.html

> Are you maintaining that list yourself, or is it RT, or both, or
> someone else?

I have a (user, not group/role) crontab that checks whether udeb-producing
packages are missing from that list, and I'm adjusting it after checking
what's happening (I think some mistakes happened, but I couldn't name any
without some research).

The crontab doesn't check the converse, because dropping udebs is rather
uncommon (unless packages go away entirely, which might or might not
result in some cleanup…).

Without trying to justify anything, I think I added systemd-udeb at the
time you mentioned you were thinking about then were about to introducing
it, and I didn't remove systemd at the same time because you/I/we weren't
sure about the timing on the NEW side (and the associated binary/binaries
takeover).

Here's what the git log says, which might confirm/infirm the very vague
recollection above:

    commit 6dbceab050aae1b5f673bab41491f7bca2a9a5d8
    Author: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>
    Date:   Fri Jan 31 18:33:17 2025 +0000
    
        freeze_hints: add systemd-udeb

If you ever need to look into the history, see etc/freeze_hints in
  respighi:/srv/release.debian.org/britney/code/b1


The whole release team has access, I'm usually the one committing stuff
there (at least regarding udebs; freezing/thawing is usually someone else,
see `git shortlog -- etc/freeze_hints` if you're curious.)


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org)            <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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