Your message dated Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:45:50 +0200 with message-id <20241006114550.af5d54f0258586e1684d7a9f@mailbox.org> and subject line Re: #1032277 installation-reports: Installer too strongly urges users to set root password has caused the Debian Bug report #1032277, regarding installation-reports: Installer too strongly urges users to set root password to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact owner@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 1032277: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1032277 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact owner@bugs.debian.org with problems
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- Subject: installation-reports: Installer too strongly urges users to set root password
- From: Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:50:06 -0500
- Message-id: <CAD+GYvxXae4OwU5j4VdatbjZRspCdSpxKdPxXQi0Gxm4zoz91g@mail.gmail.com>
Package: installation-reports Boot method: netinst CD Image version: daily netinst CD as of 02 March 2023 Date: 02 March 2023, now Machine: GNOME Boxes 43 (virtual machine) Partitions: <df -Tl will do; the raw partition table is preferred> Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card: [O] Configure network: [O] Detect media: [ ] Load installer modules: [ ] Clock/timezone setup: [O] User/password setup: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [ ] Install base system: [ ] Install tasks: [ ] Install boot loader: [ ] Overall install: [ ] Comments/Problems: Please see the attached screenshot. I believe Debian would be improved if this page was reworded. It begins with a strong emphatic statement "You need to set a password for 'root' If someone is not reading very carefully, it's easy to not see the later statement that in fact a password for root is not required and if this page is left empty, that a user will be able to run admin commands directly (with sudo or with PolicyKit as implemented by GNOME > Settings > Printers > Add a printer). Even if someone sees the statement, they might not understand it. I personally believe Debian would benefit from Ubuntu's approach where sudo/admin is enabled for the first user by default. This would be the opposite of the user experience encouraged by the current wording. 1. Move the root password page after the user name & password pages 2. Change the wording to immediately mention that a root password is not required. If it is set, then the already enabled user won't be able to perform admin functions except by logging in as root with this password. 3. Consider dropping the root password page from the default installer. I think it's too late (and unnecessary) to do this for Debian 12, but it's worth considering for Trixie. Thank you, Jeremy BíchaAttachment: debian-root-password-20230302.png
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- Cc: Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
- Subject: Re: #1032277 installation-reports: Installer too strongly urges users to set root password
- From: Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org>
- Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:45:50 +0200
- Message-id: <20241006114550.af5d54f0258586e1684d7a9f@mailbox.org>
The password screens have been overworked some time ago, so I'm closing this report. Thanks -- Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org> PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
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