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Bug#1043226: debian-installer: Please consider moving root user setup to expert install, or change text



On Monday, 7 August 2023 18:25:07 CEST Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Source: debian-installer
> Version: 20230607+deb12u1
> 
> Firstly, the instructions start off with "You need to set a password for
> 'root'", followed by seemingly uninteresting text about what a good password
> should be, which makes it incredibly easy for users to miss the part that
> sudo won't be set up for the first user.

Recently did an install in a VM and noticed it's about 5 or 6 lines, not 50 
pages, of text ... which I don't consider an unreasonable 'burden' to read 
when the user is installing a fresh OS on a machine or VM.

> So, many users, and especially newcomers to Debian, follow the instructions
> in the first line and are then surprised when they can't use sudo from
> their user from their newly installed system.
> 
> Would it perhaps make more sense to move the root password setup to the
> expert install d-i preseed entirely? Since this is likely only something
> that expert users would require in the first place?

Unless there's something actually wrong about having an enabled root account 
with a password, I would prefer if the option would stay.

> Either that, or move the explanation of what happens upward so that it's
> more prominent and not so easy to miss.

Improving the text otoh sounds like a great solution to fix any potential 
confusion.

My 0.02

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