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Re: default desktop



Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:57:30 -0500, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:
> > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> > for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
> > all kinds of places, and nobody is working on fixing them yet. Also,
> > MATE+Compiz now provides very nice zoom support.
> 
> Sorry: I have lots of questions.
> 
> Could you rephrase this email and provide more context?
> 
> Are you proposing to change Debian's default desktop or just the
> default desktop for accessibility?

As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for
accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of
default desktop for Debian indeed. IIRC one of the reasons for the
choice of gnome was its general accessibility, and I'm just saying I
believe that part has changed.

> Could you point to issues with accessibility using GNOME on Wayland?

I don't have a list, I just heard it a lot, and notably from Joanmarie.
The basics of accessibility do work, but apparently a lot of small
details pose problem.

One instance could be Bug#919417 which only happens with Wayland.
Bug#919411 is also about Orca not having support for catching capslock
as an Orca key, which is a concern on laptops.

> You can force disable GNOME on Wayland completely by setting
> WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf

Sure, but the question is the accessibility of a default debian system.

> I assume MATE isn't defaulting to using Compiz now?

It isn't.

Samuel


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