Bug#860368: installer: create network bridges by default?

[Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro>]

On 15/04/17 13:27, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 01:18:52PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> As you describe, the default network is an extra layer of NAT.  It
>> works, but not everybody wants that.
> 
> So those who don't want it can fix their bloody configuration.
> 
> Are you honestly suggesting that we should create unnecessary fluff for
> all our users just because NAT doesn't work for a small minority of our
> users?
> 

There are separate questions about
  (a) whether it can be an option (not default), or
  (b) whether it would be a useful default


> It's always possible to create a bridge manually, there's no need to do
> that from the installer; and NAT works out of the box (virt-manager will
> even suggest you enable the default network if you try to use it and it
> hasn't been enabled yet).
> 


It isn't so hard to do manually, but every person who wants this needs
to go and find out the necessary changes and edit /etc/network/interfaces

There is also the inconvenience factor: people have to bounce their
interface or reboot when making a change like that.  If the bridge is
already there we save them that inconvenience too.

Regards,

Daniel