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Re: Bug#758116: Allow to select Blends selection during installation - just "DE", "Web server", "Mail server" is NOT enough



Hi,

Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> (2016-05-21):
> * Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org> [2016-05-18 07:25]:
> > I still remember Joey's objections about *not* having users forced
> > to choose between desktop environments....because, contrary to what
> > the average geek thinks, most people have no idea about what is a
> > desktop environment.  So, just imagine if we present them with
> > "Hamradio", "NeuroDebian", "Debian Med" and such a list of unsorted
> > strange things.
> 
> FWIW, I fully agree.  I'm not happy to see the new desktop selection
> in tasksel, even though I can understand why some people want to see
> this.  In my opinion, adding Blends is definitely taking things too
> far.  Most users will have no clue what it's about, even if we add an
> explanation of what a "blend" is.

OK; so that's not just me.

> We've worked hard for years to improve the installation experience and I
> fear the new tasksel selection will add a lot of confusion for users.

For now, I've added a mention about the new (possibly temporary)
behaviour regarding tasksel:
  https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2016/20160521


Now that I'm almost done with releasing D-I Stretch Alph 6, I've looked
at how we got there. It seems blends-tasks is Priority: important, and
that's how it got into the installed system.

Then looking at tasksel's README:
| On startup, the tasksel program will read all *.desc files in
| /usr/share/tasksel/ for information about what tasks are available. The
| tasks will be presented in a simple list selection screen with their
| short descriptions.

I'm very much not happy with tasksel's picking up whatever people have
managed to get into a basic system, and I would very much prefer if it
would only look at its own debian-tasks.desc when running from the
installer. Any objections?


Also, Steve mentioned the Debian Pure Blends addition might generate
issues depending on what blends are available and/or installable on this
or that image (adding debian-cd@ for reference).


KiBi.

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