Bug#755230: closed by Andreas Glaeser
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Hello, there,
I forwarded your message to the respective bug-report.
In my opinion the workaround, which I don't fully understand to be honest, does not have
much relevance for the PC-platform, since most BIOSes do boot from USB nowadays, often
even from USB3, but it might be useful for ARM or other architectures, i.e. it's probably
easier to work around the non-bootable installer-image than bootstrapping manually or
building an image otherwise.
You can post your proposal to the debian-users mailing-list or to
debian-boot and point to the installation-report.
Greetings
Andreas
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:06:34 +0200
Andreas Glaeser <bugs.andreas.glaeser@freenet.de> wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:08:08 -0700
> From: Andrew Kurn <kurn@sfu.ca>
> To: bugs.andreas.glaeser@freenet.de
> Subject: Re: Bug#755230 closed by Andreas Glaeser
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> Thanks for your attention to this matter.
>
> I agree with you that there is no need to treat this as a program
> bug. However, the documentation could use some attention.
>
> I don't know where else to send such a request, and the Debian installer
> does ask for a report of difficulties.
>
> So, to someone updating the installation documentation, I would say:
> 1) Mention that the ISO image might not boot from FRS.
> 2) This might be got around using the method I mention (citing
> the section telling what's needed to boot.)
> 3) Explain that a symlink might be needed to /media if the ISO
> image is in an unexpected place.
> 4) Add citation of 5.4.7 for those using an alternative to direct e-mail
> in section A.4
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>
> Again, I don't minimize your work as a volunteer. You are
> due much appreciation for your effort.
>
> Andrew
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> On Mon 4 Apr 2016 13:21 +0000, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
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> > This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
> > which was filed against the installation-reports package:
> >
> > #755230: report
> >
> > It has been closed by Andreas Glaeser <bugs.andreas.glaeser@freenet.de>.
> >
> > Their explanation is attached below along with your original report.
> > If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a
> > better one in a separate message then please contact Andreas Glaeser
> > <bugs.andreas.glaeser@freenet.de> by replying to this email.
> >
> >
> > --
> > 755230: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755230
> > Debian Bug Tracking System
> > Contact owner@bugs.debian.org with problems
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> From: Andreas Glaeser <bugs.andreas.glaeser@freenet.de>
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> Subject: no need to keep this report open
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> > Your feedback is appreciated, although it lacks a speaking message-subject.
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> > You write, you were able to resolve the problem yourself and it doesn't really seem to
> > be a problem in Debian, but one with the BIOS of your computer, that makes the
> > installer-image not bootable from USB.
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> > So I think it is safe to close this issue.
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> >
> > Package: installation-reports
> >
> > Boot method: Hard disk
> > Image version: an ISO image. I still have it, if you can tell me how to extract its
> > identity. Date: 10 July 2014
> >
> > Machine: Dell tower. 5 years old, at least
> > Processor: Intel
> > Memory: 512 MB
> > Partitions:
> > Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used
> > Available Use% Mounted on rootfs
> > rootfs 48060296 3813692 41805236 9% /
> > udev devtmpfs 10240 0
> > 10240 0% /dev tmpfs tmpfs
> > 51268 640 50628
> > 2% /run /dev/disk/by-uuid/910ebbba-e8db-45c2-95f1-6d4f9805b7d4 ext3 48060296
> > 3813692 41805236 9% / tmpfs
> > tmpfs 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock
> > tmpfs tmpfs 493080 224
> > 492856 1% /run/shm /dev/sda3 ext3
> > 103812344 13443604 85095348
> > 14% /home /dev/sdb1 vfat 1956224
> > 1226112 730112 63% /media/usb0
> >
> >
> > Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn):
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub
> > Interface [8086:2570] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics
> > Controller [8086:2572] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: i915
> > 00:06.0 System peripheral [0880]: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O
> > Memory Interface [8086:2576] (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation
> > 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24d2] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell
> > Device [1028:01d5] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
> > 00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI
> > Controller #2 [8086:24d4] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
> > 00:1d.3 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI
> > Controller #4 [8086:24de] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
> > 00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI
> > Controller [8086:24dd] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
> > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev c2)
> > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface
> > Bridge [8086:24d0] (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> > (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller [8086:24db] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
> > 00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller
> > [8086:24d3] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
> > AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24d5] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0
> > 01:01.0 Communication controller [0780]: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem
> > [14f1:2f20] Subsystem: Conexant Systems, Inc. Dimension 3000 [14f1:200f]
> > 01:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet
> > Controller [8086:1050] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5]
> > Kernel driver in use: e100
> >
> > Base System Installation Checklist:
> > [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
> >
> > Initial boot: [O]
> > Detect network card: [O]
> > Configure network: [O]
> > Detect CD: [O]
> > Load installer modules: [O]
> > Detect hard drives: [O]
> > Partition hard drives: [O]
> > Install base system: [O]
> > Clock/timezone setup: [O]
> > User/password setup: [O]
> > Install tasks: [O]
> > Install boot loader: [O]
> > Overall install: [O]
> >
> > Comments/Problems:
> >
> > Because my machine will boot from a Flash Ram Stick (henceforth FRS) when I'm booting
> > Puppy Linux, I wanted to go that way. The doc says your new ISO image will boot from
> > either DVD, CD, or FRS. But, it would not actually boot. I presume that its a
> > problem with the elderly BIOS.
> >
> > So, instead, I used Puppy to repartition the HD and wrote the kernel and initrd there
> > (following guidance in the doc on what was needed for the installer to boot). I used
> > Puppy's command-line Grub. However, when I was telling it where the kernel and initrd
> > were, it complained.
> >
> > The Grub doc says that the command-line version is just a simulation, so inferior.
> > Thus, I asked the command-line to write Grub into the MBR. Then I booted successfully
> > from there.
> >
> > From there, the installer ran without problems.
> >
> > I will add one subsequent problem: When I ran apt-get, it could not find the image,
> > expecting it to be on DVD, but I was able to use the sym-link in /media to point to
> > the FRS, after which it seemed happy and ran to completion.
> >
> > A note in the doc would be helpful about /media: how it duplicates some of the
> > funtion of /mnt I just had to guess what was going on.
> >
> > Of course, I will now be tuning up things, so will run into many small bugs, but the
> > big problem is solved.
> >
> > I must add that the place in the doc where it says how to report installation needs
> > more info. It offers no alternative to setting up mail on the target box in sect. A.4
> > (https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apas04.html.en) Please put a pointer to
> > the section I used for this: Sect 5.4.7
> >
> > Andrew
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