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Bug#775120: task-mate-desktop: Should install mate-system-tools



Hi Jean-Philippe,

On  Mo 11 Mai 2015 20:33:58 CEST, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:

Le 11/05/2015 09:37, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
Mike Gabriel, le Mon 11 May 2015 03:27:17 +0000, a écrit :
   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
     ineffective)?

Once the system boots, after lightdm, I want to change password, set
the date,
network, etc. through a GUI.r

   * What was the outcome of this action?

No item appears for this. I only can use CLI tools.

Fix: add mate-system-tools in installed packages.
Looks to me that mate-desktop-environment should pull it instead?
What's your stance on this?
Furthermore, mate-system-tools will be deprecated for MATE 1.10.
What replaces it?  Does MATE not provide anything to accomplish those
tasks?
In Debian Jessie, no. Not adding the package means the user cannot change his passwd, network, etc through GUI. I don't know what will be with 1.10, but in stable, this package is needed.

If the package is needed:

  $ sudo apt-get install mate-system-tools

The issues with mate-system-tools, I have are:

  o not well tested inside Debian
  o not needed on enterprise sites (they are useless with
    LDAP, Kerberos, etc.).

So what you can convince me of is adding mate-system-tools to Suggests: in mate-desktop-environment-extras, but that does not make a change for the installation procedure and won't be much appreciated by the Debian release team either, I guess.

I'd say, we should compensate this via documentation, how about helping out with improving [1] and mentioning mate-system-tools there?

light+love,
Mike

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Mate

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