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Bug#668001: marked as done (debootstrap: cant install systemd instead of sysvinit)



Your message dated Sat, 9 May 2015 20:25:44 +0200
with message-id <20150509182544.GA1952@mraw.org>
and subject line Re: Bug#668001: debootstrap: cant install systemd instead of sysvinit
has caused the Debian Bug report #668001,
regarding debootstrap: cant install systemd instead of sysvinit
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Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.39
Severity: normal
Tags: d-i

if you use debootstrap unstable foo --include=systemd-sysv
--exclude=sysvinit
the install fails

besides having this annoying for testing, esp with systemd-nspawn,
having this work will
be a prerequisite for having systemd be the default, or at least
installable in debian-installer

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers precise-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'precise-updates'), (500, 'precise-security'), (500,
'precise'), (100, 'precise-backports')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-20-generic (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages debootstrap depends on:
ii  wget  1.13.4-2ubuntu1

Versions of packages debootstrap recommends:
ii  gnupg           1.4.11-3ubuntu2
ii  ubuntu-keyring  2011.11.21

debootstrap suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information





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Jacob Luna Lundberg <jacob@gnifty.net> (2015-05-09):
> I think this bug has a lot of dev and ops misunderstanding.  It's not
> surprising dev folks think the postinstall hack is good enough, but
> from an ops perspective it very much is not.  Rather than trying to
> argue that point, let's just move ahead with solving the core problem
> (debootstrap not honoring excludes).

No, the problem is that too many things are getting pulled, even when it
doesn't make much sense (e.g. an init system inside a chroot). The list
of extraneous packages it being assembled here:
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2015/05/msg00156.html

> I can confirm from moderately extensive testing the patch provided in
> this bug resolves the problem of excludes not working and I have not
> seen any undesired behavior resulting from this.  Could we get this
> uploaded at least to experimental, if not to unstable now that the
> jessie release has been cut?  Are the developers merely too busy and
> would they welcome an NMU for this?

Developers are busy figuring out which set of packages is reasonable to
install by default. Adjusting this will make this “problem” moot.

Closing this “debootstrap: cant install systemd instead of sysvinit”
bug report as it doesn't make sense to keep it open. Its title is
misleading, we're not going to touch jessie for that, and stretch is
being fixed the correct way.

Mraw,
KiBi.

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