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Bug#342572: marked as done (The installation manual does not do justice to the modular nature of d-i)



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Package: installation-guide
Severity: normal
X-debbugs-CC: Hans Ekbrand <hans@sociologi.cjb.net>

Below are reports by Hans Ekbrand for suggested changes to the
installation guide about PowerPC.

Filing this bugreport is my way to say:
 This is too import to get lost in mailinglist archive.

HTH
GSt

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:38:50PM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> Hi debian-boot!
> 
> After helping/discussing debian-installer on the debian-powerpc list
> and reading the installation manual, I must say that if I understand
> how d-i works, the manual does not do justice to d-i.
> 
> I think of first stage d-i as a three part process, where each step
> needs to load files from a medium to RAM. The manual fails to describe
> that each of these steps are almost independent of each other. I think
> this leads to confusion, especially under utilization of the netboot
> images.
> 
> The old installer had only two steps (A and C below), and the current
> manual still reflects that.
> 
> A. How to *start* the debian-installer?
> 
> 1. Boot from removable media that has an installer-image on its boot
>    block (e.g. CDROM, floppy, usb)
> 2. Use a bootloader from within a existing operating system (yaboot,
>    BootX, penguin)
>   2b. (possible, but not very common) Use a native bootloader (yaboot,
>      grub, lilo) installed on harddisk)
> 3. Netboot (pxe or other methods gets a bootloader by dhcp and tftp)
>    (pxelinux or yaboot loads (by tftp) the kernel and initrd needed)
> 
> B. From where is the debian-installer to get its *own modules*
>    (needed for its own functioning)?
> 
> 1. From the removable media (CDROM or usb) that started the
>    debian-installer at boot
> 2. From .iso-file on local harddisk (Filesystem must be readable by
>    the debian-installer with modules in the initrd)
> 3. From the net (internet or local debian-mirror)
> 
> C. From where is the debian-installer to get the software that
>    will *install*?
> 
> C1: The base system
> 
> 1. From the removable media (CDROM or usb) that started the
>    debian-installer at boot
> 2. From .iso-file on local harddisk (Filesystem must be readable by
>    the debian-installer with modules in the initrd)
> 3. From the net (internet or local debian-mirror)
> 
> [Reboot here]
> 
> C2: Additional packages
> 
> 1. From removable media (CDROM or usb)
> 2. From .iso-file on local harddisk
> 3. From the net (internet or local debian-mirror)
> 
> Q1: Are these three questions the relevant ones for the d-i user?
> Q2: Are these the relevant possible answers to those questions?
> 
> Q3: Is it correct that you control B by choosing what images you will use?
> 
> Q4: Can *any image* be started in any of the tree ways outlined in A?
>     If so, netboot does NOT imply a tftp boot,
>     which one might believe since netboot is only mentioned
>     in the context of tftp in the installation manual. 
> 
> Q5: Is the following correct?
> 
> "Business" means B:1
> "Hd-media" means B:2
> "Netboot"  means B:3
> 
> Q6: Can you choose C1 and C2 at install time (if you run the
> installer at a low enough priority)?
> 
> Depending on the answers on the above questions, I might rewrite parts
> of the installation manual.
> 
> -- 
> Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) <hans@sociologi.cjb.net>


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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:49:49 +0100 stappers@stappers.nl (Geert Stappers) wrote:
> Package: installation-guide
> Severity: normal
> X-debbugs-CC: Hans Ekbrand <hans@sociologi.cjb.net>
> 
> Below are reports by Hans Ekbrand for suggested changes to the
> installation guide about PowerPC.
> 
> Filing this bugreport is my way to say:
>  This is too import to get lost in mailinglist archive.

No, it's not.

Ben.

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Ben Hutchings
If you seem to know what you are doing, you'll be given more to do.

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