On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 18:55 +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 05:23:30PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 17:40 +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > Debian installations on hardware with no (battery-backuped) RTC > > > is likely an installation that hasn't network connection. > > > > What makes you think that? > > embedded systems, cheap embedded systems that have no real time clock, > those are the ones that I expect to be without network connection. > Example given: stand-alone mediaplayers. The Debian installer is not meant for embedded systems, and Debian adds a lot of bloat (=> cost). Are you talking about replacing the original OS on an embedded system to make it more flexible? > My actual point: > > Do not assume when RTC is absence, then NTP server will be present. The installation/enablement of an NTP daemon should perhaps be dependent on whether the network was configured during installation. (Though that is problematic if the network was not available due to missing firmware or driver, and the system will have a network connection later.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings One of the nice things about standards is that there are so many of them.
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