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Bug#783264: Bug#783247: Please don't install acpid and acpi-support-base



On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:34:36PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Apr 28, Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > - Acpi is a useful command-line tool to easily read values of things
> So basically you are saying that it is common use case is laptops with 
> no good management GUI.

No. I am saying that it is a good *baseline* tool, which does not do
much harm in terms of disk space usage[1], and that I therefore don't
see why you want to throw it out.

> This is not enough to make it a candidate for magic installation by 
> hw-detect, but maybe you can persuade the task-laptop maintainer that it 
> is actually useful.

Or maybe you can persuade the task-laptop maintainer that the status quo
needs to be changed, and that what's currently happening is positively
harmful. I disagree with that.

Remember that task-desktop-* and task-laptop are separate. The "acpi"
tool will be installed even if task-desktop-whatever isn't, and there
are valid use cases for such installations; I've seen people take an old
laptop, put in a more recent disk, and use that as a home server ("it
draws less power than an equally old desktop, and has a builtin UPS!").
Such an installation would not have or need a GUI, but could still use a
tool to query battery usage.

If you can show me where it does harm to keep the status quo of having
the "acpi" tool installed, I'll concede the point. So far, though, all
I've seen is you stating your opinion as fact. I'm not saying it's an
invalid opinion, but just stating out of the blue that acpi is "totally
useless" doesn't make it so.

[1]
wouter@gangtai:~$ apt-cache show acpi | grep -E '(Installed-Size|Depends)'
Installed-Size: 71
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7)

i.e., it only adds 71k to the set of Essential packages.

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