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Bug#451380: marked as done (tasksel-data: Please stop installing acpi-support and hibernate (in the laptop/desktop task))



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and subject line Bug#451380: fixed in tasksel 3.21 (tasksel-data: Please stop installing acpi-support and hibernate (in the laptop/desktop task))
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regarding tasksel-data: Please stop installing acpi-support and hibernate (in the laptop/desktop task)
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--- Begin Message ---
Package: tasksel-data
Version: 2.70
Severity: normal

Hi,

currently tasksel installs hibernate *and* acpi-support for the laptop
and desktop task. This is already one package too much, as they overlap
in functionality and confuses users, as they don't really know which one
they should use. In addition hibernate and acpi-support are rather
complex script packages.

Beginning with hal-0.5.10, the pkg-utopia group decided to only support
the new pm-utils [1][2] package as suspend backend for hal and made it a
dependency. So now there will be three suspend frameworks installed.
As the majority of desktop users either use gnome-power-manager, kpowersave 
or kde-guidance-powermanager (which all use hal's suspend() methods),
hibernate and acpi-support are useless and again, only add to confusion,
as the user can't really know, why three of them are installed and which
one is actually used.
I thus recommend to remove acpi-support and hibernate from the laptop
and desktop task and add pm-utils instead (although not strictly
necessary as hal depends on it anyways).

A big advantage of hal+pm-utils is that both are freedesktop projects
and already adopted by several major distros, like Fedora, Mandriva or
opensuse. It has the potential to become *the* common power management
infrastructure. Ubuntu is also considering to switch to hal+pm-utils for
their next release and plans to obsolete acpi-support [3]. Another
reason to remove acpi-support from tasksel.

Cheers,
Michael


[1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/pm-utils
[2] http://pm-utils.freedesktop.org/
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PMUtilsSpec


-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (300, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.23
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tasksel-data depends on:
ii  laptop-detect                 0.13.2     attempt to detect a laptop
ii  tasksel                       2.70       Tool for selecting tasks for insta

tasksel-data recommends no packages.

-- no debconf information



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--- Begin Message ---
Source: tasksel
Source-Version: 3.21

tasksel (3.21) unstable; urgency=low

  ...

  [ Christian Perrier ]
  ...
  * Drop acpid and acpi-support from laptop task. Closes: #758762

 -- Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>  Thu, 21 Aug 2014 06:59:11 +0200

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Best wishes,
Bob

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