Hi Cyril, Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 18:31:33) > Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> (2014-11-25): >> August 8th, Debian began supporting¹ choice among several init >> systems. August 21st, Debian changed² default init. >> >> To me, flexibility is an important feature of Debian. I am excited >> that Debian extends its flexibility to cover several init systems. >> >> Others agree, apparently³: Among those testing our system while this >> new flexibility is in place, ~20% use a non-default init system. >> >> For fresh installs, picking a non-default init requires a workaround: >> First install default init system, then replace with your own choice. >> Remember to also check for and purge any cruft pulled in by that >> detour. >> >> October 17th a fix was proposed at >> <https://bugs.debian.org/668001#20>. >> >> @Testers of Debian: Please test debootstrap with that patch applied >> and report your experiences, good and bad, to >> <668001@bugs.debian.org>. >> >> @Debian-installer team: Please reconsider applying that patch. If >> not targeted Jessie then in another suite: Any degree of adoption >> eases ability to test, which in turn eases ability to adopt further. > > I'm not sure why people seem to believe that broadcasting a call for > tests through their blog, Planet Debian, various Debian mailing lists, > etc. is going to change anything here. You don't follow how raising exposure to a bugreport have the potential to boost contributions getting that bug resolved? > I've already mentioned that having debootstrap stop pulling an init > system might make sense at some point. In the meanwhile, debootstrap > is not going to receive any patching in the dependency resolving area. Thanks for clarifying. I guess now (reading again a couple times very slowly) that you are referring to "this late in the release cycle" in <https://bugs.debian.org/668001#28>. I am sorry that until now I read that as simply "go away, too late!" Quite possibly I was distracted by the mud you threw right after that in same sentence. I find no pleasure digesting mud so only read that sentence quickly at first. Just to be clear: Are you saying that the patch is perfect and just - as already more than adequately pointed out by you (except evidently still so for think-headed folks like me) - will not under any possible circumstances be touched _before_ Jessie is released, but _after_ the release will be applied as-is with no need for further testing nor discussion from your peer Debian developers or anyone else? If so, then why not release it now for experimental? If because you are too busy releasing Debian, would you perhaps be ok with me doing so as an NMU? - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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