Bug#770812: tasksel: task-sysvinit to allow easy installation of non-systemd systems
reopen 770812
thanks
Hello,
Read the QUESTION.
Not only the word "systemd".
You are still not listening to my actual question, only raising your
sysvinit-shields.
I'm asking if a TASK can solve this maybe more nicely than the other
proposed approaches.
Bug #668001 does not mention this possibility as far as I can tell:
The word "task" is NEVER discussed there.
And the "late_command" solution is not userfriendly at all.
Therefore, this is a different wishlist item, against a different
package, too...
There is a reason why I filed this bug against *tasksel*, and not debootstrap!
I WILL accept a closing for this (non-RC, wishlist) bug IF you can
point out a thread e.g. on debian-boot where the option of a
task-sysvinit package to make the users happy is discussed.
The tech-ctte discussion you cited also does NOT discuss this option...
Because adding a task to the tasksel list IS something else than
adding a whole new bootstrap option...
The only mentioning of tasksel in the tech-ctte thread is this:
"1. The TC encourages a team (probably debian-boot) to provide a
package (similar to tasksel), let's call it initsel,"
Making a "similar" mechanism clearly is much more invasive than trying
to use the existing tasksel mechanism, isn't it?
But apparently you didn't read my question, only "systemd" and
"sysvinit install".
I begin to understand what the systemd opponents complain about...
You don't actually discuss the technical aspect (can a task package
solve this), but instead you try to silence me by 1.) closing the bug
without discussion, now 2) closing it with a totally different
argument and the "Tech-CTTE and GR have decided" hammer and "don't
bring up the bug count"?!?
We had a GR about making it *mandatory* to support sysvinit.
The GR does allow to use the traditional Debian way of developing
features and improving portability.
Reporting a specific wishlist bug for an *optional* functionality IS
THE PROPER PROCEDURE, isn't it?
Don't come with absurd "we're in freeze, so don't open wishlist bugs"
arguments...
That's not what a freeze is, and the wishlist bug does not
> - Debian is frozen, we're trying to get the RC count down
Seriously. A wishlist bug is not RC, is it?
Back to the topic, would you PLEASE bother to discuss the option of
adding a task to tasksel for sysvinit installation?
Is it possible (at all), and how much testing is needed, can get this
tested in time for jessie?
Regards,
Erich
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