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Bug#668001: debootstrap: cant install systemd instead of sysvinit

So what kind of testing would help to get this included in Jessie? Can I offer assistance?

It strikes me that an awful lot of the screaming about systemd would die down a LOT if there were a definitive way to install a system with systemvinit-core rather than systemd -- as opposed to having to fix things after the fact (especially since the instructions floating around are conflicting, and there seem to be some cases of dependency hell - where uninstalling systemd leads to mass removals of other packages).

It sure would be nice if we could simply pre-seed base-installer with a couple of well-defined include and exclude statements, and end up with a systemd-free system.

So.. what can I do to help (given that I'm a sys admin, not a c coder).

Miles Fidelman

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:09:19 +0900 Kenshi Muto <kmuto@debian.org> wrote:
> At Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:57:30 +0200,
> Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Kenshi Muto <kmuto@debian.org> (2014-10-17):
> > Thanks for the patch but…
> >
> > I'm really uncomfortable adding that kind of patch this late in the
> > release cycle, especially since the “I don't want systemd” “problem”
> > is trivially solved with a late_command.
> Yes, I understand current situation of release cycle.
> It would be better we considered this issue some month ago.
> I myself don't matter about systemd, but
> I heared there was a bootup problem when one created a root
> system for container (such as LXC) with using debootstrap.
> (though I'm not sure about this.)
> Thanks,
> --
> Kenshi Muto
> kmuto@debian.org

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra

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