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Bug#224635: marked as done (lilo-installer should offer a way to only install lilo to floppy)



Your message dated Mon, 17 Mar 2014 00:11:06 +0100
with message-id <20140316231106.GA23071@mraw.org>
and subject line Re: FWD: installation reports categorisation
has caused the Debian Bug report #224635,
regarding lilo-installer should offer a way to only install lilo to floppy
to be marked as done.

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Package:installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: download 21 November - http://gluck.debian.org/
cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta-1/sarge-i386-netinst.iso 100MB
uname -a: Linux localhost 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 
GNU/Linux
Date: 25 or 26 Nov.
Method: Tried to boot CD (see comments), failed, and then used floppy image to 
boot the CD.
Machine: Self-build. EPOX 8KHA+ Mobo (VIA KT266A, VT8366A and VT8233 onboard 
sound) 
Processor: AMD XP 1600+
Memory: 256MB DDR
Root Device: IDE (IBM ATA100 HDD) : /dev/hda13
Root Size/partition table: A 5GB single partition on an existing extended 
partition
Output of lspci: 
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333]
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3cSOHO100-TX Hurricane (rev 30)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/
A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
00:11.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 
Audio Controller (rev 30)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 04)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:    [E]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network:         [E]
Detect CD:              [E]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:    [O]
Mount partitions:       [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Install boot loader:    [E]
Reboot:                 [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
1) This is the first CD that has ever failed to boot on my system. It booted a 
laptop OK, but my system failed completely. I've installed a range of distros 
on this box - Potato, Woody r0, Woody r1, Slackware 8, 9, 9.1, Mandrake 8.1, 
8.2, 9 without any problems booting. I had the first few Sarge unofficial CDs 
from the .hu mirror and the first of these booted fine. The boot device 
selector floppy image on the installer CD solved the problem and I was able 
to start the process from the CD after booting the floppy.
2) I suffered the IDE-SCSI module problem (which I hadn't seen at the time). 
As I had got a few of the unofficial Sarge CDs I intended to register them as 
apt sources during the install, but this failed. Following the reboot it was 
clear that this was down to the IDE CD not being mounted. I got round it by 
simply removing the IDE-SCSI module and accessing the CD drive was was then 
fine.
3) The network configure with dhcp wouldn't let me leave it unconfigured. I 
have a separate Linux firewall connected by ethernet so my system is a static 
network with NAT on the firewall. I got around the installer throwing me back 
to the start of the dhcp config section by skipping ahead to network 
configuration without dhcp and after this it was ok.
4) I tried to avoid LILO but it refused to let me. I didn't want to re-write 
my mbr so put /dev/fd0 as the LILO target. It didn't like this for some 
reason. I then skipped ahead to the GRUB section and set this to a floppy 
which was OK.
5) My onboard VIA8233 sound chip has given quite a few Debian users a problem 
(as a quick google search will show), and the only real solution has been 
installing ALSA and recompiling the kernel - no big deal, but inconvenient 
compared to other distros which use ALSA and manage to get sound configured 
in the initial install. It's encouraging that the new Debian Installer 
managed to get sound working, although it uses the VIA 82cxxx module which 
isn't correct (Knoppix will happily boot my machine and also gets sound 
running on the VIA 82cxxx module) I haven't had a chance yet to really test 
the sound capabilities, but it does seem fine - a great result for a Debian 
installer.

Conclusion : I had several problems, and can't say I particularly liked the 
installer. The hardware detection is certainly improved and is a very 
positive aspect, but the way that a couple of specific steps tried to prevent 
me leaving them was a negative. I doubt that a newbie would have a happy time 
with the installer on my box.

Suggestions : I'm surprised the network config is split into 2 sections, dhcp 
and static. I would have thought that this would be 2 options in a single 
section, maybe with dial-up as a further option as a lot of Debian users will 
have dial-up as their only network connection. I would also make a floppy a 
prominent option for LILO or GRUB - if you already have a working system I 
think it makes more sense to use a floppy for the first couple of boots 
rather than overwriting the mbr during a new install.



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Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> (2003-12-20):
> clone 223624 -5
> reassign -5 lilo-installer
> severity -5 wishlist
> retitle -5 lilo-installer should offer a way to only install lilo to floppy

No more floppy support AFAICT, so closing.

Mraw,
KiBi.

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