Bug#688045: Installation report for Wheezy beta 2 installer
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On 2012-09-18 18:46, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Fabian Rodriguez, le Tue 18 Sep 2012 12:51:09 -0400, a écrit :
>>>> - - While installing the base system more optional detail
>>>> (when downloading updates for example) could be useful .
>>>
>>> Most people do not care about such details, that is why we
>>> don't show them. If you really care, see the documentation:
>>>
>>> “ Error messages and logs are redirected to the fourth console.
>>> You can access this console by pressing Left Alt-F4 (hold the
>>> left Alt key while pressing the F4 function key); get back to
>>> the main installer process with Left Alt-F1. ”
>> I appreciate Alt-F4 gives access to this but there isn't a hint
>> about it when it would be useful (specially low-bandwidth
>> conditions come to mind).
>
> Well, we can't really provide all kinds of hints for all possible
> conditions. That's why there is documentation.
This is not about "all possible conditions", just a very specific use
case.
At the time I followed this documentation, which doesn't mention
anything about the console use:
http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apa.html
>>>> Odd behavior (not show-stopper): - - Clock/timezone setup
>>>> wasn't automatic even though a network connection was
>>>> present
>>>
>>> Do you mean that the clock was not adjusted, or just that the
>>> timezone was not asked? When the country has only one timezone,
>>> the timezone question is not asked, that's normal.
>>
>> Timezone was asked but could have been guessed (GeoIP?),
>
> GeoIP is not really a safe bet. Which country did you select? I
> actually wonder whether GeoIP can even help for the countries which
> have several timezones.
There wasn't a choice for country, only for timezones (Eastern, etc.)
which makes the assumption such information is known/understood.
Geolocation helps a lot with this. There is mention of this in several
other install reports:
"Implementing it would require udebs for all the GeoIP related
packages and a Debian-hosted service to provide public IP address
information to the installer for folks without a public IP address."
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698909#25
Ubuntu implemented this a few years ago in its installer:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/229884
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Fabián Rodríguez
http://fsf.magicfab.ca
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