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Bug#665775: [netcfg] Confusing prompt for Domain name



reassign 665775 netcfg
tags 665775 wontfix
thanks

Quoting Filipus Klutiero (chealer@gmail.com):
> >
> >On the other hand, if your administrator tells you that a DHCP
> >server is available and is recommended, then you don't need this
> >information because the DHCP server will provide it directly to
> >your computer during the installation process.
> >
> 
> 
> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch03s03.html#id316925
> 
> First, please avoid using "your" here. Prefer "the computer's
> Internet address" and "the computer's hostname".

Well, this prompt has been worked and reworked over the years and one
of the involved people is the person well known in Debian for pushing
to avoid "computer personnalization". Guess who that might be? :-)

And still, we have "your". That's perfectly on purpose to fit the need
for being as user-accessible as possible, which is one of the goals of
D-I.

> The main problem is that a host may have any number of Internet
> addresses. Having 1 is just one case. While the case where hosts
> have several addresses may be less problematic, one is left quite
> confused when the host has no address. One doesn't necessarily have
> a network, and if there is a network, it doesn't necessarily have a
> system administrator. Also, although DHCP does provide an IP address
> and some parameters, the domain name is not necessarily provided by
> DHCP.
> 
> Finally, the first sentence ("The domain name is the part of your
> Internet address to the right of your host name.") is misleading. As
> mentioned in
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name#Domain_name_syntax :
> >A hostname *is* a domain name that has at least one associated IP address.


Trying to enter such considerations would be too pedantic. We need to
keep prompts simple. We guess that users who understand all underlying
subtleties will anyway never read down to that part of the prompt and
probably stop at "Domain name:".

D-I is designed to be as usable from the home computer to the server
in a datacenter. Such prompts that are common to all have been
thoroughly worked over years to fit all such needs.

It is anyway too late for such changes. I'm sorry to say so but fro
mabout now, I'll be fighting very hard against *any* change in D-I
prompts. You have no idea how hard it can be to get translations
updated.

The only changes to D-I prompts that may get my approval will be those
that do not impact localization at all, such as typo, spelling,
grammar, punctuation fixes (and even punctuation might be debated).

Other changes have to happen in the first year after a Debian release,
not a few months before. And, yes, it takes *months* to get everything
updated when it comes at l10n (hunting down translators is an
incredibly painful task).


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