Bug#630575: Icelandic Dvorak keyboard layout isn't there either
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 01:47, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, le Mon 05 Mar 2012 18:34:47 +0100, a écrit :
>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:55, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:
>> > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, le Mon 05 Mar 2012 12:36:40 +0100, a écrit :
>> >> I must say I find this annoying as well, the Icelandic Dvorak Keyboard
>> >> layout is also missing, so my installation of Debian always goes like
>> >> this:
>> >>
>> >> 1. I choose "Dvorak"
>> >
>> > Why not just choosing Icelandic? (which is already selected by default)
>> >
>> >> 2. I can't type my real name when I create a user, I type "whatever" instead
>> >> 3. I'm limited in the passwords I can pick
>> >
>> > You'd then be able to type your real name and not be limited.
>>
>> Because that's Icelandic *qwerty*. Which is completely different than
>> Icelandic Dvorak.
>
> It is understood that it's completely different, just like all dvorak
> layouts.
>
>> If I picked that it would take me 2-3x as long to install the system
>> since every time I wanted to type something I'd have to hunt-and-peck
>> type instead of touch-type.
>
> That much? The d-i team assumed that anybody who knows a dvorak layout
> would know the traditional layout too, even if a bit less trained to it.
>
>> To see what that's like, if you happen to use QWERTY, try installing
>> the system with a Dvorak keyboard.
>
> Which to our knowledge is far from comparable: there are way less dvorak
> keyboards on sale than qwerty keyboards. In the common shops in the
> countries I have visited, it's a 0 ratio.
Yeah, I actually can't type better than someone who's just seen a
QWERTY keyboard for the first time on QWERTY.
While Dvorak users are by far in the minority the number of Dvorak
keyboards on sale doesn't tell you anything about how many there
are. I and almost everyone else using Dvorak don't use a special
Dvorak keyboard, we just remap the keys on a qwerty keyboard and
touch-type.
At both home and work I type on a keyboard that appears to be QWERTY,
but I just remap the keys with "setxkbmap -layout XX -variant dvorak".
Anyway, not to respond to every single point in your original E-Mail I
completely see your point, you'd like to not confuse most users and
reduce the d-i size. I completely understand that, and I also
understand that users like myself are by far in the minority.
I just wanted to comment here to see if you'd be interested in taking
patches to include 100% of the keyboard layouts that are available
after installation. If you're not let's just leave this as a wontfix.
I understand your rationale, but as someone who prefers Debian over
Ubuntu I think it's a shame that Ubuntu is easier for me to install
than Debian. That's all.
Thanks for all your work on d-i. It's *much* better than it was just a
few years ago, I really appreciate the work of people such as
yourself, and please don't let my relatively minor grievance get to
you, all in all this is just a minor point of pain for me and very few
other people.
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