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Bug#695403: installation-guide: Please point out the limitations of firmware detection



On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 18:04 +0000, Brian Potkin wrote:
> On Sat 08 Dec 2012 at 13:59:57 +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 12:29 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Brian Potkin <claremont102@gmail.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > > +</para><para>
> > > > +
> > > > +The routines used to detect missing firmware can only be of help for
> > > > +modules loaded after &d-i; has started.
> >
> > This is irrelevant; not all drivers are included in d-i (and in
> > particular radeon is not).
> 
> Even though I thought I had implied this there may be some element of
> imprecision in my expression. I was also trying not to be too specific
> about which missing firmware might not be detected. Is this any better?
> 
>    The installer only prompts for firmware needed by kernel
>    modules loaded during the installation. Not all drivers are
>    included in d-i (in particular radeon is not) so . . .

Yes, that is clearr.

> > >  This implies that the
> > > > +capabilities of some devices, the graphics card, for example, are no
> > > > +different at the end of the installation from what they were at the
> > > > +beginning and may mean some of your hardware is not being used to its
> > > > +full potential. If you suspect this is the case, or are just curious, it
> > > > +is not a bad idea to check the output of the <command>dmesg</command>
> > > > +command on the newly booted system and search for "firmware", "missing",
> > > > +"unable" or "fail".
> > > > +
> > >
> > > Shouldn't we improve the installer to do this search instead? To me this
> > > seems to be mostly scriptable.
> >
> > This doesn't work.
> >
> > I think we should standardise the log messages from the kernel.
> 
> Would a user employing the search terms have some chance of discovering
> a lack of firmware on an installed system?

Yes, but if you find yourself writing instructions like this then it's a
software bug, not a documentation bug.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers. - Leonard Brandwein

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