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Bug#307232: marked as done (can't boot rc3 netboot+cd on oldworld, floppy undocumented (Re: Can't boot floppy on PowerMac G3))

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regarding can't boot rc3 netboot+cd on oldworld, floppy undocumented  (Re: Can't boot floppy on PowerMac G3)
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package: debian-installer-manual

mainly a repost to the BTS, one more info: cd booting on oldworld was possible 
with woody, according to http://www.biccard.com/alan/7200/7200boot.html

Hi,

On Sunday 24 April 2005 19:53, Jon Niehof wrote:
> I see on the status page that CD booting should work on old
> world now--is there any documentation on that? Despite the media
> bay ATAPI interface being listed in the device aliases, I can't
> get a directory listing on it in OFW and "boot cdrom:" just
> boots macos off the hard drive. I presume the yaboot
> instructions in the installer manual aren't applicable.

According to the (netbsd)-docs I found, it's "bood cd:" or 
"boot scsi/sd@3:0/install/powerpc/vmlinuz-coff.initrd" for my 7200 where the 
scsi-cd has id 3.

0 > boot scsi/sd@3:0  
RESETing to change Configuration!
no bootable HFS partition
Open Firmware, 1.0.5
To continue booting the MacOS type:
BYE<return>
To continue booting from the default boot device type:
BOOT<return>
 ok
0 > boot scsi/sd@3:,/install/powerpc/vmlinuz-coff.initrd bad partition number, 
using 0 can't OPEN: scsi/sd@3:,/install/powerpc/vmlinuz-coff.initrd
 ok
0 > boot scsi/sd@3:/install  can't OPEN: scsi/sd@3:/install
 ok
0 > boot scsi/sd@3:/install/powerpc/vmlinuz-coff.initrd  can't OPEN: 
scsi/sd@3:/install/powerpc/vmlinuz-coff.initrd
 ok
0 > boot scsi/sd@3:0,/install/powerpc/vmlinuz-coff.initrd bad partition 
number, using 0 can't OPEN: scsi/sd@3:0,/install/powerpc/vmlinuz-coff.initrd
 ok
0 > 

Netbooting d-i doesnt work as well. At least for the OF 1.0.5 of my 7200 the 
5.2mb initrd is too big, it works with a smaller (1.2 mb) kernels. According 
to ethereal it hangs after 8169 packets, each 588 bytes in size. This is 
roughly 4mb.

 Firmware, 1.0.5
To continue booting the MacOS type:
BYE<return>
To continue booting from the default boot device type:
BOOT<return>
 ok
0 >   ok
0 > boot enet: file: 192.168.45.23,/tftpboot/vmlinuz-coff.initrd/DEFAULT 
CATCH!, code=FFF00400 
 ok
0 > 

# note: i only needed to enter "boot enet:" to successfully boot smaller 
# kernels.

the relevant snippet from my dhcpd.conf

host pmac7200 {                                                            
  hardware ethernet 00:00:00:00:00:00;                                  
  next-server 192.168.45.23;                                            
  filename "/tftpboot/vmlinuz-coff.initrd";                                  
}    


btw, I've just tested the 2-4 boot.img, both the daily and the rc3 image, both 
work. (Although I find it odd, that images from 03-23, the rc3 release day, 
doesnt exit...neither a link) They were fetched from 
http://people.debian.org/luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy-2.4/boot.img 
and ~luther/d-i/sarge/images/2005-03-24/powerpc/floppy-2.4/boot.img  
and written with
dd if=/tmp/boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k conv=sync ; sync ;  
 cmp /dev/fd0 /tmp/boot.img 


summary:
- i'm still not sure about the cd issues - there are many OF versions with 
different bugs and features or vice versa ;) - but see below..
- document how to netboot on oldworld, maybe works on some models
- document the models where netbooting d-i doesnt work
- creater smaller (only-english) initrds to allow netbooting (as floppy 
bootint has legal problems)

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/ch05s01.html#boot-cd
if this is correct, booting from cd via OF is not possible.
but if 
ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-2.0/macppc/INSTALL.html#Booting%20the%20NetBSD%2Fmacppc%20install%20CD-R
is correct, it's possible. (With all versions of OF: quote: "(Open Firmware 
1.0.5, Open Firmware 1.1.22, Open Firmware 2.0.x, Open Firmware 2.4)"

ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-2.0/macppc/INSTALL.html#Supported%20models
has a overview, which model has which version of OF. (btw, the 7200 is not 
support by netbsd because of the cpu...)


http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/ch05s01.html#boot-tftp
misses oldworld and chrp pegasos2. (It's possible on both archs, but the 
current d-i initrd is too big for oldworld.)

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/ch05s01.html#id2532179
definitly needs an update and a nicer URL ;-)


So I guess I will make five (? ;) bugs out of this mail to track the issues. 


regards,
	Holger

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Floppies are no longer supported in the installer.
Hence, i am closing this BR.

-- 
Melhores cumprimentos/Best regards,

Miguel Figueiredo
http://www.DebianPT.org

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