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Bug#288902: marked as done (Slight install glitch, some suggestions)

Your message dated Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:57:51 +0000
with message-id <E1OtBnD-0004Qb-I3@ravel.debian.org>
and subject line Closing old installation report #288902
has caused the Debian Bug report #288902,
regarding Slight install glitch, some suggestions
to be marked as done.

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Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux mofo 2.4.27-1-386 #1 Wed Dec 1 19:43:08 JST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux 
Date: Jan 1 2004
Method: <How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
     install, from where?  Proxied?>
Boot from cd.
Network install: ftp://ftp.us.debian.org, ftp://debian.uchicago.edu
no proxy

Machine: Penguin Computing
Processor: Dual 600MHz Pentium III
Memory: 1GB RAM
Root Device: SCSI sdb
Root Size/partition table:
l# sfdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 2213 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 

  Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1          0+      5       6-     48163+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb2          6     491     486    3903795   83  Linux
/dev/sdb3        492     540      49     393592+  82  Linux swap
/dev/sdb4        541    2212    1672   13430340    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5        541+   1634    1094-   8787523+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb6       1635+   2212     578-   4642753+  83  Linux
# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb2             3.7G  107M  3.4G   4% /
tmpfs                 443M     0  443M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb1              45M  9.3M   33M  23% /boot
/dev/sdc2              17G   14G  2.5G  85% /home
/dev/sdb5             8.3G  1.3G  6.6G  17% /usr
/dev/sdb6             4.4G  397M  3.8G  10% /var
/dev/sda2            1012M  783M  178M  82% /mnt/sda2
/dev/sda6             4.0G  3.1G  724M  82% /mnt/sda2/usr
/dev/sda7            1012M  456M  505M  48% /mnt/sda2/var
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
0000:00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892B U160/m (rev 02)
0000:00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 07) 0000:00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 08) 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 04) 
# lspci -n
0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 02)
0000:00:10.0 0100: 9005:0081 (rev 02)
0000:00:12.0 0401: 1274:1371 (rev 07)
0000:00:14.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 08)
0000:01:00.0 0300: 102b:0525 (rev 04)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network:         [O]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:    [O]
Mount partitions:       [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Reboot:                 [O]

Comments/Problems:

Network configured manually.

Hard drive partitioned manually.

Boot loader installed to floppy.

After reboot (?), I believe in base-config where you choose
what kind of system you want, I mistakenly pressed the
return key instead of the space bar when trying to mark
X windows desktop system, and then got nothing installed.
So, wound up using apt-get to install x-window-manager and
gnome manually.  Somewhere in there a do-over question would
have been really helpful, I only now feel like I can remember
base-config (or is it tasksel) that I would need to type
to recover from this error.

And it's _easy_ to make the
mistake of not pressing space to mark the item.  Maybe at
the very beginning of the install the user could get,
by default, a little training in
pressing the space bar to mark things and using the tab button
to move around.  Yup, I think a little "Do you want me to show
you how to use this installation program [Y,n]:" at the
beginning would be a good thing.  Nobody reads the instructions
even when they're on the screen at the bottom when you need them.
(Face it, we all feel clever when we're working with
a program and get stuck, and then solve our problem
by actually reading the instructions at the bottom of the
screen.)
The tuitorial can force the user to learn to use the tab key,
the space bar, and the return key just by requiring their use.
(One page with instructional text, user must un-mark a check box, mark another, tab to an appropriate "button" and press enter to proceed.) 

For an enhancement, the installer could optionally
start by testing hardware.  Using memtest and badblocks.
(I prefer badblocks -w -p2 out of paranoia.)
Nothing like flakey hardware to make working with a system
hell and I make a practice to run those programs on a
questionable system before spending any other time on it.

Does not seem to work with OptoRite (www.optorite.com)
CD/RW Model No: CW 5201 in place of CD reader above.
I've not gotten this ATPI cd drive/burner to work with Linux
yet, could be it won't.  It's hung my box before
(using RH 7.2), I forget whether it hangs on mount or
trying to read a mounted cd.

Installer did not detect smp or install smp kernel.

BTW, I like the OpenBSD install, which finishes by telling
you to read the "afterboot" man page, which bootstraps
your head.  IHMO, a similar Debian page should tell
users to use aptitude.  It took me an IRC session
to find that I couldn't use dpkg -l to see what packages
were available for installation.

Good work on the installer overall.  Much easier than my previous
(2?) debian installations.

Regards,

Karl <kop@meme.com>
Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
                -- Robert A. Heinlein

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We are closing this installation report for one of the following
reasons:
- it was reported with a pre-lenny version of Debian
  Installer.
- indications in the installation report give the feeling that
  the reported problem waslying in another software, unrelated to
  D-I, which we can't easily identify.
- indications in the installation report suggest that it may have been
  fixed in a more recent version of a D-I component
- it was successful and we forgot closing it..:-)
- it has no information we consider useful


The D-I team is currently in the process of cleaning out the old spool
of installation reports that haven't bene processed yet. 

In case you think that the problem you reported has chances to be
still present, please reiterate your installation test with
a more recent image of D-I, if you're in position of doing this.

You'll find daily builds at
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. We recommend you choose
the netboot image, in the "daily builds section", then choose to
install "squeeze" when prompted.

If some problems are found, please report them with a new bug sent
against installation-reports.

Many thanks for your understanding and your help improving Debian,
past and present.

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