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Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

>---- Original Message ----
>From: zlinuxman@wowway.com
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
>Subject: Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test
>Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:00:45 -0400 (EDT)
>>On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:51:11 -0400 (EDT), Mark <mamarcac@gmail.com>
>>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Stephen Powell
>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 17:29:54 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote:
>>>>> Stephen Powell wrote:
>>>>>> (3) The need for special backup requirements will be
>>>>>> used by the opponents of Linux at my place of employment
>>>>>> to oppose further deployments of Linux, ...
>>>>> What about the carrot approach?  Find an even better
>>>>> backup method, compatible with Grub 2 and appealing
>>>>> to your management for its efficiency.
>>>> You're missing the point.  The main selling point to management
>>>> is that Linux is free.  ...
>>> Clonezilla is free, and when using the "saveparts" option to save
>an image
>>> of one partition and not the full hard drive, it includes the MBR
>>> associated data.  You can then drop that partition image onto a
>>> disk, that does not have anything in the MBR, and once Clonezilla
>>> the image to the new partition, will put the MBR in place and the
>>> boots on its own the next time, with no extra work (I just did
>this last
>>> week with a new hard drive).  This has been my experience with
>>> Clonezilla and Lenny, at least.  So it may help in your case.
>>Perhaps so.  But it's not what the backup people know.  They're very
>>comfortable with the backup software that they know and love for
>>backing up their Windows servers, which was purchased with Windows
>>in mind.  Do you think they're going to redo their whole backup
>>just for a few Linux servers?  If I want to play in their sandbox, I
>>to play by their rules.  That's the political reality.  At our shop,
>>has a small beachhead on a vast continent controlled by Windows. 
>Over time,
>>the role of Linux may expand to the point where Linux is actually
>>about and planned for when decisions are made.  But that day is not
>>  .''`.     Stephen Powell    
>> : :'  :
>> `. `'`
>>   `-
I have been where Steven is and agree with his approach.
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