If I boot with the the PCMCIA ethernet card removed, it doesn't hang on hald. It hangs "Starting network connection manager: NetworkManager". The PCMCIA card is a Megahertz "Model XJ10BT or XJ10BC" -- John Gunshenan, jpg@post.harvard.edu, cell 508-395-1073 http://www.linkedin.com/in/johngunshenan