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Re: Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional



On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 09:15:59AM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > I think the use case is users who are being control freaks about the set of
> > packages on their systems.  If the set of packages being pulled in as
> > recommends is *wrong* (they don't fit the Policy definition of Recommends),
> > bugs should be filed against those packages and be fixed.  If the set of
> > packages is *right*, then there's no good reason to give users a big "ignore
> > Policy" button at install time.

> The number of "yes, we want this" answers shows that the current set is
> wrong.

No, it doesn't; all it shows is that there are people who are willing to
complain about installation of Recommends by default.

> One example just out of my head: I've found that it is nearly impossible
> to avoid avahi-daemon if APT::Install-Recommends is true.  There are
> multiple completely unrelated (IMHO) packages recommending it, like
> sane-utils and rhythmbox.  But are these bugs?

I don't think the rhythmbox one is a bug.  I'm not sure if the sane-utils
one is a bug.

> I guess a system without avahi-daemon is pretty unusual, given the number
> of recommends pointing in that direction.

That's not really a relevant measure of whether the Recommends are correct.

> Should I start filing bugs anyway?

Discussion on debian-devel first may be a better way to proceed.

> I'm hesitating, and have chosen to set APT::Install-Recommends False
> instead.

I think that's self-evidently the wrong solution.  If you don't want
avahi-daemon installed, you can uninstall that one package or use equivs or
do a variety of other things.  It doesn't make sense to ignore all package
Recommends just because there's one particular package you don't want on
your system.

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