Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge
Hello,
Frans Pop, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 11:14:23 +0200, a écrit :
> On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > I'm starting to think that we could benefit of a specific flavour for
> > it. What others think?
>
> IMO sound support is completely outside the normal scope of the installer
> and substantially increasing the size of the initrd and memory
> requirements (even if only for the graphical installer) for that,
> whatever the noble intentions, is utterly insane.
Why are we providing framebuffer drivers for a graphical installer?
That's insane too. As I reported earlier the added size to the initrd
for sound+speech synthesizer is 2MB.
> I also wonder for what languages this proposed change will add speech
> synthesis support.
af, bs, ca, cs, cy, de, el, en, eo, es, es-la, fi, fr, fr-be, grc, hbs,
hi, hr, hu, hy, hy-west, id, is, it, jbo, ku, la, lv, mk, nl, no, pl,
pt, pt-pt, ro, ru, sk, sq, sr, sv, sw, ta, tr, vi, zh, zhy, zh-yue.
At a quite low cost because the espeak synthesizer is not based on
samples, and the quality is not so bad.
> Yes, I agree at this point we should definitely switch to separate
> accessibility images and separate accessibility CDs. The impact of
> accessibility additions on the regular images is becoming way too big.
I'm ok with separate accessibility images, but not with separate
accessibility CDs, because that's creating a ghetto. Sorry for the
strong word, but that's what I'm always fearing. There are a lot of
things that would happen, at least:
- Finding the link to CD images is already hard for blind people when
they have to go through the lot of text of web pages. If in addition
to that they have to look for the "accessibility" CD that's even
worse.
- People can not just follow the direct ISO URL advertised by the news
websites when Debian releaases.
- People can not just use the CDs that people would have at Debian
booths.
- That means that accessibility CDs will receive much less testing than
others.
- Yet another CD image for the mirrors. For now only the gnome desktop
is accessible to blind people, but KDE should be shortly, possibly
for squeeze, so there is not reason why we shouldn't have a "KDE
accessible" Cd too, etc.
Samuel
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