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Re: Minutes from d-i meeting on September, 26th



Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> This new busybox will remove "ifconfig" and add the often requested
> "ping".  "ifconfig" is still currently in use by ppp-udeb, but Jérémy
> Bobbio proposed a yet-to-be-tested patch to solve this issue.

ppp-udeb is not the only d-i component to still use ifconfig, IIRC it's
also used to look for upped interfaces by save-logs and by something else.

I wasn't aware that anything had changed to invalidate the often
repeated arguments against including ping in d-i?

> Petter Reinholdtsen recently added to discover the ability to map hardware to
> Debian packages and added support to build out-of-tree kernel modules with
> module-assistant when needed.
> 
> All that is needed is to run the "discover-pkginstall" script as root.
> It will display a list of detected packages and allow the user to
> choose which packages should be installed.  This includes
> RAID controller tools, wireless drivers, USB camera drivers and others.
> 
> Petter asked everyone to give it a try, in the hope to improve the
> script and database.

I tried it, but it doesn't suggest anything on my laptop. :-)

> It would be a nice addition to add this directly to the
> debian-installer, probably in the hw-detect package, through a script in
> finish-install.d or post-base-installer.d.

In pkgsel seems to make more sense.

> Another issue raised by Otavio Salvador was about the out-of-tree kernel
> modules.  Desktop users may not actually want to bloat their system with
> a building environment, and out-of-tree modules are built for kernel
> versions in stable and testing.  discover-pkginstall should install
> these binary packages directly.

Running compiles in finish-install would be quite nasty. "Finishing
instllation, please wait for half an hour while I compile stuff". I'm
also concerned that compiling kernel modules isn't the most robust or
user-friendly thing, and the installer would need very good error
handling for this.

> The last remark was about the GUI tools that discover-pkginstall could
> install.  It should somehow integrate with tasksel to be aware of the
> user prefered desktop environment and install the necessary packages
> depending on that.

One approach could be for tasksel to use the program to populate its
lists of package in the desktop tasks. Tasksel is flexible enough to be
able to do this, it could call discover-pkginstall --kde or something.

> He asked about the possibility to instead automatically parse the actual
> templates for successions of whitespaces to automatically find the
> columns.

Did you consider looking for embedded tabs in values? AFAIK tabs arn't
currently used in select list values, and would probably display
strangely currently, so it might be a natural, safe, and easily-parsed
thing to use for columns.

-- 
see shy jo

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