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Bug#404972: marked as done (Minor problems with Notebook HP nc 6000)

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and subject line Bug#404972: Minor problems with Notebook HP nc 6000
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Package: installation-reports
Severity: minor

This installation was done with the business-card daily-build for today
(Dec 29th), it went quite fine, but some things didn't behave as expected,
and thus I'm filing this report.

Boot method: business-card CD
Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso
Date: Dec 29th, 2006

Machine: HP nc 6000
Processor: Intel Centrino 1.5 GHz
Memory: 512 MB
Partitions: 

df -Tl:
/dev/hda2     ext3     8783824   1734852   6602768  21% /
tmpfs        tmpfs      258372         0    258372   0% /lib/init/rw
udev         tmpfs       10240        68     10172   1% /dev
tmpfs        tmpfs      258372         0    258372   0% /dev/shm

/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77520 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes

Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1               1       58920    29695648+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/hda2   *       58921       76628     8924107+  83  Linux
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/hda3           76628       77520      449820    5  Extended
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/hda5           76628       77520      449788+  82  Linux swap / Solaris

Output of lspci -nn:

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O
Controller [8086:3340] (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP
Controller [8086:3341] (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24c2] (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24c4] (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24c7] (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M)
USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24cd] (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
[8086:2448] (rev 83)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC
Interface Bridge [8086:24cc] (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE
Controller [8086:24ca] (rev 03)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation
82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5]
(rev 03)
00:1f.6 Modem [0703]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller [8086:24c6] (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350
[Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [1002:4e50]
02:04.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100
3B Mini PCI Adapter [8086:1043] (rev 04)
02:06.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1
MemoryCardBus Controller [1217:7223]
02:06.1 CardBus bridge [0607]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1
MemoryCardBus Controller [1217:7223]
02:06.2 System peripheral [0880]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711Mx 4-in-1
MemoryCardBus Accelerator [1217:7110]
02:06.3 CardBus bridge [0607]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1
MemoryCardBus Controller [1217:7223]
02:0e.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme
BCM5705M_2 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:165e] (rev 03)

(I'm skipping the lspci -vnn since nothing went that wrong).

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:           [O]
Detect network card:    [O]
Configure network:      [O]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [*]
Detect hard drives:     [*]
Partition hard drives:  [*]
Install base system:    [O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:    [O]
Install tasks:          [*]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Overall install:        [O]

Comments/Problems:

The "Detect hard drives" and "Partition hard drives" steps completed ok,
but in the middle were REALLY slow, with no process bar in the case of the
"Detect hard drives".

The syslog that was shown during this long wait was this:

Dec 29 14:31:27 main-menu[1380]: INFO: Menu item 'disk-detect' selected
Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network
interface eth0
Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network
interface lo
Dec 29 14:31:28 hw-detect: PCMCIA bridge driver already present in kernel
Dec 29 14:31:28 hw-detect: Missing modules 'ide-mod (Linux IDE driver),
ide-probe-mod (Linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detection),
ide-floppy (Linux IDE floppy)
Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network
interface eth0 
Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network
interface lo
Dec 29 14:32:08 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
Dec 29 14:32:46 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0

And

Dec 29 14:32:47 main-menu[1380]: INFO: Menu item 'partman-base' selected
Dec 29 14:32:47 kernel: JFS: nTxBlock = 4037, nTxLock = 32303
Dec 29 14:32:48 kernel: SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime,
large block numbers, no debug enabled
Dec 29 14:32:48 kernel: SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem
Dec 29 14:33:26 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
Dec 29 14:34:04 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
Dec 29 14:34:04 partman:   No matching physical volumes found
Dec 29 14:34:04 partman:   Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a
while...
Dec 29 14:34:04 partman:   No volume groups found

In particular, it kept waiting at the fd0 lines, so what I think is that it
had troubles with that.  This notebook does NOT have a floppy drive, so I
guess that the long wait is related to fd0 timing out.

It's a bit frustrating to have to wait for a long time when nothing is
happening underneath.

**

About the "install tasks" part, I find it a bit problematic that there is
no way to stop it and go back.  I had selected "Desktop Environment" and
"Laptop utilities" (or something, it was in Spanish), and then regretted
the Desktop thing, because it implied a lot of packages, and I had no way
at all to stop it and change it.

**

On a previous try, I had selected one of the Argentinian mirrors (I
suggest removing both of them, since neither of them are updated
nor reliable, or at least asking them to be more reliable if you are going
to include them in the release), and it didn't work fine.

Before selecting the mirrors, I had been playing with the menus a bit, and
had finally set the debconf priority on "high", so that I would get the
"normal user" experience, this seems to have caused a lot of trouble.

When d-i started downloading base packages (aptitude, debootstrap, etc),
the packages did not meet the md5sums, or gave 404 errors and so on.  I was
prompted many times about this, and had two buttons "Continue" or "Go
Back".  I tried the "Go Back" many times, but it didn't go back.  And the
"Continue" continued, but the packages were stil corrupt.

So, apparently, if someone sets the priority at "high" manually, and an
error occurs, there's no way of going back.

This smells like a bug to me, but I know that a normal user wouldn't have
done what I did, so it's not a very important bug.

**

That's it.  To be fair, the installer worked really really fine.  I'm just
filing this bug to try to make it even better.  Nothing here is important.

You've all done a great job.  Thanks for d-i!

Love,
Marga.

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--- Begin Message --- 
On Friday 29 December 2006 20:58, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> Comments/Problems:
> This notebook does NOT have a floppy drive, so I guess that the long
> wait is related to fd0 timing out. 

Already answered.

> About the "install tasks" part, I find it a bit problematic that there
> is no way to stop it and go back.  I had selected "Desktop Environment"
> and "Laptop utilities" (or something, it was in Spanish), and then
> regretted the Desktop thing, because it implied a lot of packages, and
> I had no way at all to stop it and change it.

I agree in principle, but a technical solution for this is not that 
obvious. Adding a confirmation dialog is kind of against our design 
philosophy, although if we could add info about size and estimated 
duration of download and maybe installed size, it could be worth it.
Not sure if a "cancel" function can be implemented here as we go through 
at least 6 layers of programs before dpkg gets run...

> On a previous try, I had selected one of the Argentinian mirrors (I
> suggest removing both of them, since neither of them are updated
> nor reliable, or at least asking them to be more reliable if you are
> going to include them in the release), and it didn't work fine.

That is not really our decision. Suggest you mail debian-mirrors about it 
or file a bug report against their pseudo package. We just take what's in 
the mirror masterlist.

> Before selecting the mirrors, I had been playing with the menus a bit,
> and had finally set the debconf priority on "high", so that I would get
> the "normal user" experience, this seems to have caused a lot of
> trouble.

I doubt that. The priority in itself cannot really be a cause of problems.

> When d-i started downloading base packages (aptitude, debootstrap,
> etc), the packages did not meet the md5sums, or gave 404 errors and so
> on.  I was prompted many times about this, and had two buttons
> "Continue" or "Go Back".  I tried the "Go Back" many times, but it
> didn't go back.  And the "Continue" continued, but the packages were
> stil corrupt.
>
> So, apparently, if someone sets the priority at "high" manually, and an
> error occurs, there's no way of going back.

No, there isn't a way to go back, period. Both buttons have the same 
function currently. It's a known issue, but again not trivial to fix.

> That's it.  To be fair, the installer worked really really fine.  I'm
> just filing this bug to try to make it even better.  Nothing here is
> important.

Thanks.

I think I'll close this report as a "successful" install as we're already 
aware of the issues you mention and will probably get looked into 
sometime during Lenny.

Cheers,
FJP

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