Re: Bug#394971: [powerpc64] load the fan control modules
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 10:49:40AM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 09:37:04PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> >> Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> >>
> >> > So, if you want to solve this, don't propose to commit my patch, but speak to
> >> > frans, and beat some decency and maturity into him.
> >>
> >> How you can be sure if I hadn't done it? I did it already too many
> >> times.
> >
> > How can i know ? Frans seems to be a black hole, and the only return i get
> > from him are hardly encouraging, of the "FUCK YOU" variety. Others may have
> > been speaking to frans, but how should i know ?
>
> That's the point. You can't. And then you should't say something like:
>
> ,----
> | > So, if you want to solve this, don't propose to commit my patch, but speak to
> | > frans, and beat some decency and maturity into him.
> `----
>
> I already talked with him about you but I do think that you need to
> beat some maturity too before all this can be solved.
Ok, so, what did he say ? you know, i can hardly understand this issue, if
from the start there was never a frank and honest information of what they
reproach to me.
> >> The way you're dealing with others and now with me isn't good. I'm
> >> trying hard to make all this mess to work and trying to bring the fan
> >> patch in with you but you insist to blame everyone instead to fix the
> >> last patch hook.
> >
> > There is only one way to make this mess work, and this is for frans to stop
> > behaving like a dictator, and restore my svn commit access. He is not able to
> > do so by himself apparently, so others need to force him to do that.
>
> Well I completelly disagree with you. I would like to stop this
Ah, yes, you disagree ? well, i have offered him chances enough for
conciliation, i guess there may be close to ten instances or so by now, over
the months, they where always rejected.
So, if you know about this, have some information about what is going on, and
frans has other things to offer than "FUCK YOU", i sure think everyone would
benefit from knowing about it.
> useless thread now since your patch was commit and you refused to do a
> trivial fix to make my and our life easier.
Yeah. and the issue is not fixed, and i should be silent about it, and in a
month, we will be facing the same mess.
> >> I'm not talking about Frans but me. I've been decent with you and
> >> others and tryed hard to make things better to you and others too so
> >> please, come back to work as I'm doing now.
> >
> > Yeah, you are offering to me more of the same i have been doing since 6 months
> > now. I appreciate your time and help, but this is not going to help in any
> > way. I have proven that i can play by the submit patch route, and frans has
> > proven repeteadly that he can make a mess out of it, ignoring the patches for
> > week, and then suddenly making demands to me that it should be fixed
> > immediately.
>
> Well, I'm trying to do what I can but since you're saying to don't
> help I will stop of doing it now.
i really don't understand this issue, i have always been open and spoken my
mind, and tryed to solve the issue. every conciliation attempt with frans
ended by him totally closing himself, and everyone having spoken to him says i
should be silent and wait (forever?), but nobody is giving any kind of hint or
information about what is going on. And the months pass and nothing changes.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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