Re: Many comments to Beta 3
On 24/08/06, Jens Seidel <jensseidel@users.sf.net> wrote:
Hi,
(please CC: me)
I tested the current Beta 3 of the installer (my aim was not to install a new
system, that's why I send no installation report) and want to inform you about
my experiences. There are many little issues which are mostly not very important.
I used the netinst image from
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta3/i386/iso-cd/.
The first confusing fact are the names:
debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso (38MB)
debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso (139MB)
I know this has been already discussed in the past but now I have a local pocket
CD available and noticed that it fits up to 210 MB. So it's sufficient large for
a netinst CD. The businesscard ISO name is that's why confusing.
Why not swap the names? (A netinst CD is also useful as rescue system, ... without
network connection at all, a businesscard CD probably not.)
Indeed, this was discussed many times, but I think the main stopper is
their real meaning (which in turn is 0 information for a newbie user).
I would suggest:
businesscard -> keychain
netinst remains this way or -> minidisc
The following refers to the graphical user frontend and expert mode but I also
tested the newt and partially text frontend:
There is a "Screenshot" button which I cannot select/use. I tried TAB and
cursor keys, no success! An Alt+S shortcut (which is visible via: "_Screenshot")
would be nice. I tried also my print key but the button appearance did not
change (no pressed+release animation or something fancy like this).
I think I have seen at some point the request to make screeshots via
the Print key possible, or, even better via Alt+S. Probably, if a bug
is not filled (I have looked and haven't found one with an obvious
name), it should be filled.
I have also an ugly mouse cursor in the middle of the screen. Since the mouse
does not work I suggest to hide it (e.g. by moving it to the bottom right
corner).
Maybe, placing it there, but over the screenshot button :) .
Seriousely, it should be visible, but in a no-button area, so users
with a mouse don't get confused.
Or maybe is possible to detect non-working mouses and hide the cursor?
The string "Choose language" at the beginning of the installation process (e.g.
during the locale selction) is not translated even after I selected German.
After a "Go Back" and reconfiguration it changed into the mixed term
"Sprache wählen/Choose language".
The language setting is enabled after is selected and localchooser
runs. It is not selected on the spot.
Also untranslated:
"Configure and start a PPPoE connection" (main menu)
For that a translation for the po-debconf template of the ppp package
is needed, which is not a part of D-I nor its levels (yet). After
ppp-udeb gets more testing it might become. But that is no reason to
not send a new or an updated translation into BTS.
I get the message "This computer may have a PCMCIA interface." but I
definitively have no PCMCIA interface, only two ordinary ethernet cards (one is
a ISA card).
It says "may have", it lets you decide that ;-) . AFAIK there is no
reliable way to say "yes" or "no" ATM.
My PC is connected via eth0 with my notebook which itself is connected (via eth2)
to my router. There is no direct connection to the router. I enter my notebook as
gateway but cannot specify a nameserver (I have not installed bind).
I would like to use my router as nameserver but this requires a
route add -host <router ip> gw <notebook ip>
which I currently start manually from another console or ssh.
I know that there exists various solutions (nevertheless I like my current configuration):
* installation of a nameserver on the notebook
* direct connection to the router
* DHCP
Why not configure your DHCP server to provide the correct nameserver
and router options?
May I suggest dnsmasq, which is really good at this thing.
I was also once able to enter the "Continue with SSH" menu without a current
network configuration (the IP adress is the dialog was empty, also the ifconfig output).
IIRC I did the following: I entered a proper static network and selected later PPPoE
which failed and destroyed my configuration.
"Go Back" in "Detect disks" goes to partitioner, not to main menu.
That is because you are "inside" partman. That is the correct
behaviour, and is documented in the manual.
I cannot revert a proposed LVM partitioning of a whole disk. Nothing happens if
I select revert. I can remove all physical volumes manually but the related logical volumes
(which use removed PV!) cannot be removed!
AFAIK, you have to configure LVM accordingly and delete those first.
Another issue: I found a reference to the netinst CD four times in my /etc/apt/sources!
Two are commented out.
I think this has been reported (and fixed?) recently. Once for each
time apt sources menu was visited.
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Regards,
EddyP
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