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Bug#364546: marked as done (Debian Installer Manual: hardware.po)

Your message dated Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:32:41 -0700
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and subject line Bug#364546: fixed in installation-guide 20060726
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Package: debian-installer manual
Severity: minor
Tags: l10n, patch

I have just translated the hardware.po section of the manual. While doing so, I noticed the following typos or errors, which I thought you might like to clear up before release.

I'm not sure if the above tags will work for this report, if i have them correctly, so have sent a copy to you, Frans. I hope that's OK.

Sorry it's taken me so long to find time to continue working on the Manual. I hope I can get it done before release, if that is still useful.

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:859
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 There are four major flavors of supported <emphasis>&architecture;</emphasis> flavors: Amiga, Atari, Macintosh and VME machines. <snip>

"flavors" is used twice in this sentence:

There are four major flavors of supported X flavors.

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:1070
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 Serial console is available on all supported DECstations (9600 bps, 8N1). For using serial console, you have to boot the installer image with the <literal>console=ttyS</ literal><replaceable>x</replaceable> kernel parameter (with <replaceable>x</replaceable> being the number of the serial port you have your terminal connected to &mdash; usually <literal>2</literal>, but <literal>0</literal> for the Personal DECstations). On 3MIN and 3MAX+ (DECstation 5000/1xx, 5000/240 and 5000/260) local console is available with the PMAG-BA and the PMAGB-B graphics options.

A serial console is available on all supported DECstations (9600 bps, 8N1). To use the serial console, ... being the number of the serial port to which you have your terminal connected ... a local console is available via the PMAG-BA and the PMAGB-B graphics options.

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:1139
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 Most systems use this kernel flavour, which supports the PowerPC 601, 603, 604, 740, 750, and 7400 processors. All Apple Power Macintosh systems up to and including the G4 use one of these processors.

- systems
+ machines
+ processor configurations

The G4 is not a system: it is the type of processor configuration, and therefore is usually used to identify the machine. My laptop is an iBook G4, that's họw it is classified, based on the overall hardware config, and on the processor config. powering the machine. When I look at About This Mac in my Apple menu, it ignores the hardware config entirely and simply says "Processor: PowerMac 1.2 GHz G4". (More detailed hardware config is available via "More Info...".)

I would also strongly recommend you change "Macintosh" to "Mac" or "Apple Mac" throughout your documentation. No Mac user calls it the Macintosh, and Apple certainly doesn't. "What are you running?" "I've got a Mac." My Apple menu says "About This Mac", not "About This Macintosh", and our help documentation is called "Mac Help", not "Macintosh Help".

The word Macintosh is also more confusing for readers of other languages, too, since it's a difficult word to work out, not structured as will make sense in many languages. Combined consonant sounds are difficult for speakers of many languages.

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:1197
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 Macintosh computers using the 680x0 series of processors are not in the PowerPC family but are instead m68k machines. Those models start with <quote>Mac II</quote> or have a 3- digit model number such as Centris 650 or Quadra 950. Apple's pre- iMac PowerPC model numbers have four digits.

You're forgetting the LC models. I had a LCIII, which was a 68030. The LCs came between the Mac II and the Quadra. I later had a Quadra, which was a 68040.

- Those models start with <quote>Mac II</quote> or have a 3-digit model number such as Centris 650 or Quadra 950. + Those models start with <quote>Mac II</quote> series, go on to the <quote>LC</quote> family, then the Centris series, and culminate in the Quadras. These models usually have a Roman numeral or 3-digit model number such as Mac IIcx, LCIII or Quadra 950. This group of machines also includes the laptops Mac Portable, Powerbook models 100-190cs and Powerbook Duo models 210-280c.

This model range started with the Mac II (Mac II, IIx, IIcx, IIci, IIsi, IIvi, IIvx, IIfx), then the LC (LC, LCII, III, III+, 475, 520, 550, 575, 580, 630), then the Mac TV, then the Centris (610, 650, 660AV), the Quadra (605, 610, 630, 650, 660AV, 700, 800, 840AV, 900, 950), and finally the Performa 200-640CD, an excellent line of machines. Very reliable, robust and capable.

In laptops, it started with the Mac Portable, then the PowerBook 100-190cs and the PowerBook Duo 210-550c (excluding PowerBook 500 which is Nubus, please see the section below).

Please feel free to use this information. It is correct and comprehensive, which will help users with different models of machines. You can refer to MacTracker, or any of the Mac information sites.

NuBus systems are not currently supported by debian/powerpc. The monolithic Linux/PPC kernel architecture does not have support for these machines; instead, one must use the MkLinux Mach microkernel, which Debian does not yet support. These include the following: <itemizedlist> <listitem><para> Power Macintosh 6100, 7100, 8100 </ para></listitem> <listitem><para> Performa 5200, 6200, 6300 </para></ listitem> <listitem><para> Powerbook 1400, 2300, and 5300 </para></ listitem> <listitem><para> Workgroup Server 6150, 8150, 9150 </para></ listitem> </itemizedlist> A linux kernel for these machines and limited support is available at <ulink url=\"http://nubus- pmac.sourceforge.net/\"></ulink>

It's probably not a bad thing that you have a Mac devotée translating these strings. ;)

The NuBus Macs have he 603 and 604 processors: the Power Mac 4400-9600, the Twentieth Anniversary Mac, the Performa 5200CD-6420 and the laptops PowerBook Duo 2300c/100, Powerbook 500, and PowerBooks 1400-5300. This series also includes the Workgroup Server 6150-9650, and the Network Server 500-700.

- These include the following: <itemizedlist> <listitem><para> Power Macintosh 6100, 7100, 8100 </para></listitem> <listitem><para> Performa 5200, 6200, 6300 </para></listitem> <listitem><para> Powerbook 1400, 2300, and 5300 </para></listitem> <listitem><para> Workgroup Server 6150, 8150, 9150 </para></listitem> </itemizedlist> + These machines with NuBus 603 and 640 processors include the following: <itemizedlist> <listitem><para> <i>desktop</i> Power Macintosh 4400 to 9600 </para></listitem> <listitem><para> <i>desktop</i><i>desktop</i> Twentieth Anniversary Mac </para></ listitem> <listitem><para> <i>desktop</i> Performa 5200CD to 6420 </ para></listitem> <listitem><para><i>laptop</i> PowerBook Duo 2300c/ 100</para></listitem> <listitem><para><i>laptop</i> PowerBook 500</ para></listitem> <listitem><para><i>laptop</i> PowerBook 1400 to 5300 </para></listitem> <listitem><para><i>server</i> Workgroup Server 6150 to 9650</para></listitem> <listitem><para><i>server</i> Network Server 500 to 700</para></listitem> </itemizedlist>

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:1653
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 Multi-processor support &mdash; also called <quote>symmetric multi-processing</quote> or SMP &mdash; is supported for this architecture. The standard Debian &release; kernel image was compiled with SMP support. This should not prevent installation, since the SMP kernel should boot on non-SMP systems; the kernel will simply cause a bit more overhead.

- Multi-processor support ... is supported for this architecture.
+ Multi-processor capacity ...  is supported for this architecture.

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:1808
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 On SGI machines, booting from CD-ROM requires a SCSI CD- ROM drive capable of working with a logical blocksize of 512 bytes. Many of the SCSI CD-DROM drives sold for the PC market do not have this capability. <snip>


- sold for the PC market
+ sold in the PC market
+ designed for the PC market

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:1943
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 Generally, the Debian installation system includes support for floppies, IDE drives, IDE floppies, parallel port IDE devices, SCSI controllers and drives, USB, and FireWire. The file systems supported include FAT, Win-32 FAT extensions (VFAT), and NTFS, among others.

- The file systems supported include  ...  among others.
+ The file systems supported include ...
+ Debian supports the file-systems ..., among others.

"include" and "among others" are mutually exclusive. One is a sample set, the other describes the remaining part of the superset.

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:1950
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auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 The disk interfaces that emulate the <quote>AT</quote> hard disk interface which are often called MFM, RLL, IDE, or ATA are supported. <snip>

- The disk interfaces that emulate the <quote>AT</quote> hard disk interface which are often called MFM, RLL, IDE, or ATA are supported. + The disk interfaces that emulate the <quote>AT</quote> hard disk interface, often called MFM, RLL, IDE or ATA, are supported.
OR (better, less fragmentation)
+ Debian also supports the disk interfaces that emulate the <quote>AT</quote> hard disk interface, often called MFM, RLL, IDE or ATA.

Currently, the reader can't tell which interfaces, the emulators or the original, are called MFM etc.

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:2187
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 You can help this situation by encouraging these manufacturers to release the documentation and other resources necessary for us to program their hardware, but the best strategy is simply to avoid this sort of hardware until it is listed as working in the <ulink url=\"&url-hardware-howto;\">Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO</ulink>.

- You can help this situation
+ You can help in this situation
+ You can help improve this situation

reference:	⑤	hardware.xml:2406
flag:	⑤	no-c-format
auto:	⑤	Tag: para
Original: ⌘0 Any network interface card (NIC) supported by the Linux kernel are also be supported by the boot disks. <snip>

- Any network interface card ... are also supported ...
+ Any network interface card ... is also supported ...

I hope this is useful.

Clytie Siddall (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)
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Source: installation-guide
Source-Version: 20060726

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
installation-guide, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-alpha_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-arm_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-hppa_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-i386_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-ia64_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-m68k_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-mips_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-mipsel_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-powerpc_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-s390_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide-sparc_20060726_all.deb
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide_20060726.dsc
  to pool/main/i/installation-guide/installation-guide_20060726.tar.gz

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 364546@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
Frans Pop <fjp@debian.org> (supplier of updated installation-guide package)

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administrators by mailing ftpmaster@debian.org)

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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:27:52 +0200
Source: installation-guide
Binary: installation-guide-powerpc installation-guide-s390 installation-guide-ia64 installation-guide-m68k installation-guide-mipsel installation-guide-arm installation-guide-mips installation-guide-sparc installation-guide-alpha installation-guide-i386 installation-guide-hppa
Architecture: source all
Version: 20060726
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Frans Pop <fjp@debian.org>
Changed-By: Frans Pop <fjp@debian.org>
 installation-guide-alpha - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-arm - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-hppa - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-i386 - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-ia64 - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-m68k - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-mips - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-mipsel - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-powerpc - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-s390 - Debian installation guide
 installation-guide-sparc - Debian installation guide
Closes: 309889 345482 364517 364546
 installation-guide (20060726) unstable; urgency=low
   [ Joey Hess ]
   * Update kernel building section to conditionalise some more 2.4 kernel
   * Suggest passing --initrd to make-kpkg since the docs say nothing about
     compiling disk drivers into the kernel.
   * Document new passwd/root-login setting.
   * Booting a USB stick via a boot floppy is not supported by current
     installer images.
   * Update preseeding docs to use task names, not short descriptions, since
     that will work now and is more convenient for preseeding.
   * Document the kde-desktop and gnome-desktop subtasks.
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Various corrections suggested by Clytie Siddall.
   * chroot-install:
     - add /etc/hosts to be created for network configuration (closes: #364517)
     - make kernel/linux-image variable (closes: #345482)
   * Document -- command line option for passing parameters to boot loader
     configuration (closes: #309889).
   * Switch Finnish from XML-based to PO-based translation.
   * Bring numbering and layout of GPL more in line with original. With thanks
     to Holger Wansing.
   * Add functionality to include optional paragraphs in translations.
     Initially two have been defined:
     - a paragraph in bookinfo for information about the translation;
     - a note in appendix/gpl.xml required with unofficial GPL translations.
   [ Joey Hess ]
   * Document new preseed/run setting.
   * Prebaseconfig renamed to finish-install, which changes some documentation,
     and. notably, renames one of the xml files.
   * hd-media size changed to 256 mb.
   * Document new aliases added in preseed 1.17 for common debconf boot
     parameters: fb, url, file, locale, interface.
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Document guided partitioning using LVM and update partitioning section.
   [ Martin Michlmayr ]
   * The RiscPC flavour is now known as "rpc" rather than "riscpc".
   * As of 2.6, r4k-ip22 also rupports r5k machines do the r5k-ip22 flavour
     has been dropped.
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Added the remaining suggestions about nubus and non-powerpc macs
     (closes: #364546).
   * Restructured the chapter about powerpc supported hardware, moved
     unsupported machines to the end.
   * Updated the information about existing kernel flavours.
   [ Miroslav Kure ]
   * Document installation to encrypted partitions (partman-crypto).
   * Update XOrg to 7.0.
   [ Frans Pop ]
   * Etch has been assigned version 4.0.
   * Update kernel versions to 2.6.16.
   * Base languages to be built for website on list of release languages.
   * arm, mips and mipsel switched to 2.6 kernels.
   * Enable Brazillian Portuguese and Vietnamese translation for release.
   * Disable Greek translation as it is too incomplete.
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