Bug#325259: marked as done (INSTALL REPORT)
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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:13:01 -0700
From: Nathaniel Homier <nate.homier@gmail.com>
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Package: installation-reports
INSTALL REPORT
Debian-installer-version: <Debian 3.1r0 http://debianvendor.org>
uname -a: <Linux debian 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Thu May 19 17:53:30 JST 2005 i686
GNU/Linux>
Date: <Sat 06 Aug 2005 02:56:49 PM PDT>
Method: Local install. DVD-ROM boot with linux26 and
netcfg/disable_dhcp=true as commands at the prompt.
Machine: <Home built. Intel D865PERL mainboard>
Processor:Pentium 4 1.8a Ghz
Memory:2048MB
Root Device: </dev/sda1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3400832AS 400GB 7200
RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive with NCQ - OEM>
Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition
table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 9614116 1615484 7510260 18% /
tmpfs 1037536 0 1037536 0% /dev/shm
/dev/mapper/ndh1-nate1
373995272 9758280 345239132 3% /home
tmpfs 10240 812 9428 8% /dev
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM
Controller/Host-Hub Inter face (rev 02)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller
(rev 02)
0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI #1 (re v 02)
0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI #2 (re v 02)
0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI #3 (re v 02)
0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI #4 (re v 02)
0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2
EHCI Contr oller (rev 02)
0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge
(rev 02)
0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra
ATA 100 St orage Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150
Storage Co ntroller (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller
(rev 02 )
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown
device 00f1 (rev a2)
0000:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet
(rev 10)
0000:02:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP
(rev 05)
0000:02:02.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8802 (rev 05)
0000:02:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
0000:02:04.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game
port (re v 04)
0000:02:04.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port
(rev 04 )
0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:2570 (rev 02)
0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:2571 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:24d2 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:24d4 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:24d7 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.3 0c03: 8086:24de (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:24dd (rev 02)
0000:00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev c2)
0000:00:1f.0 0601: 8086:24d0 (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.1 0101: 8086:24db (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.2 0101: 8086:24d1 (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:24d3 (rev 02)
0000:01:00.0 0300: 10de:00f1 (rev a2)
0000:02:01.0 0200: 1186:1300 (rev 10)
0000:02:02.0 0400: 14f1:8800 (rev 05)
0000:02:02.2 0480: 14f1:8802 (rev 05)
0000:02:04.0 0401: 1102:0004 (rev 04)
0000:02:04.1 0980: 1102:7003 (rev 04)
0000:02:04.2 0c00: 1102:4001 (rev 04)
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [O]
Install boot loader: [O]
Reboot: [O]
Comments/Problems:
The install went very well, however I find the partioning tool to be
lacking in help and the layout to be slightly confusing. For example I
Spent the better part of 2 hours trying to make a logical volume. I
finally succeded no thanks to the counter intutive partman. I had never
done this type of partion before and partman was very confusing. I feel
a great effort should be expended to make partman friendly to families
and grandparents because with the increasing size of hard disk and their
cheapness people will be constantly adding hard drives in the future and
LVM's are the future of disk storage in my opinion. My video card was
never recognized untill I installed the Nvidia drivers. My video card
is a BFG 6600GT Which has been out now for a while and to not have it
detected is upsetting. It should not take more than a month after a
piece of hardware is released before a driver for debian is also
released, my opinion. I'm talking about open source drivers of course.
My Envision En-710e 17" CRT display has now been out for quite some
time now and that was also not detected, however I got it to work
finally. I am very disapointed to say the least with video card &
monitor detection. But for me this would be nitpicking. I have an
HDTV3000 tv tuner card that was detected as a multimedia card but alas
there is no driver for Debian 2.6.8 and for me to make it work is well
beyond my skills and this is a Linux hardware company! News flash Linux
hardware not native to Debian GNU/Linux 3.1r0 satire:). Shit, $170 down
the drain:( Oh well maybe next release please.
<PLease for the love of God make Partman & LVM a hell of a lot easer to
use please. Yeah i'm begging. Overall the install was more enjoyable
than installing windows seriously! In windows the actual install
continues for days what with fixing all the little things here and
there. Debian by contrast is super fast and simple. Except for the
pesky video, monitor section. I chose Debian NOT for technological or
technical reasons but for philosophical reasons I.E. software in the
public intrest etc. Please understand that not all users are skilled in
installing some are just ordinary blokes who come to Debian by way of
moral reasons. Finally I would like to say thank you to all the Debian
developers and maintainers and volunteers who give us an operating
system that gives us moral peace of mind and a guilt free conscience.
Thank you. Do real human beings actually read these parts? >
Install logs and other status info is available in
/var/log/debian-installer/.
Once you have filled out this report, mail it to submit@bugs.debian.org.
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From: Frans Pop <aragorn@tiscali.nl>
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On Saturday 27 August 2005 04:13, Nathaniel Homier wrote:
> The install went very well, however I find the partioning tool to be
> lacking in help and the layout to be slightly confusing.
Hmm. Did you consult the Installation Guide?
> For example I
> spent the better part of 2 hours trying to make a logical volume. I
> finally succeded no thanks to the counter intutive partman. I had
> never done this type of partion before and partman was very confusing.
> I feel a great effort should be expended to make partman friendly to
> families and grandparents because with the increasing size of hard disk
> and their cheapness people will be constantly adding hard drives in the
> future and LVM's are the future of disk storage in my opinion.
We are aware there are some usability issues with partman although there
are also a lot of people very complementary about it.
Help in making partman user friendlier is very welcome.
> My
> video card was never recognized untill I installed the Nvidia drivers.
> My video card is a BFG 6600GT Which has been out now for a while and
> to not have it detected is upsetting. It should not take more than a
> month after a piece of hardware is released before a driver for debian
> is also released, my opinion. I'm talking about open source drivers of
> course.
I'm afraid that is not the correct attitude for a completely volunteer
based project like Debian. If a commercial organization fails to get your
hardware supported in time, you can whine about it (and they will raise
the price to get extra staff). If the same happens in a FOSS project, you
either accept that nobody feels your hardware is as important as you do,
or you step in to help.
> I chose Debian NOT for technological or
> technical reasons but for philosophical reasons I.E. software in the
> public intrest etc.
That is great, but also accept the other side of the coin... Things don't
happen of their own in FOSS.
Closing your report as the installation was basically successful. Thanks
for submitting it.
Cheers,
FJP
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