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Re: Bug#325218: tasksel: Completed and rationalized language and language-desktop tasks



> I'm afraid this patch is broken. I've only looked at Dutch, but would 
> think there are similar problems for other languages:

Well, for the languages which were previously maintained, that's
possible, yes.

The main point of this proposed patch was establishing initial tasks
for languages which don't have one, mostly because no-one cared up to now.

It derived in a coordination of the existing tasks as well because a
quick overview showed me that they are not very consistent in many
matters (some seem to have not followed changes in the desktop task itself)


> - aspell-nl is now included in both the dutch and the dutch-desktop tasks;

Seems to be an artefact of the generation and "correction" scripts I
used which I didn't catchup.

>   also I feel installing idutch, wdutch and aspell dictionaries is system
>   bloat as aspell is often an alternative to idutch and in my experience
>   the idutch wordlist is better (note that aspell-en is only recommended
>   by the aspell packages); let's please leave something to the users


So, your advice would be commenting aspell-nl? I actually would prefer
leaving it there commented so that we have a reference for the future
to know *why* the aspell dicitonary is not included in the task.

> - gimp-help-nl is included even though _not_ including it was a conscious
>   decision on the l10n-dutch list as it is extremely incomplete
>   (size is 152k versus 3551k for the English help)

OK, same suggestion here-->leave it (so that the scripts I intend to
setup find it) but commented with an explanation.

BTW, if it is "broken", why not ask the maintainer to remove
it....keeping a broken package in the archive is not very good for our
users..:-)


> - koffice-i18n-nl is included even though koffice is not included in the
>   desktop task; is that desirable?

About these koffice-i18n-* packages, you actually puzzle me. Actually,
a few -desktop tasks include them. This is why I decided to add all
the available koffice-i18n-* packages...and forgot checking whether
koffice is installed by desktop.

Actually, if koffice is not installed, the koffice-i18n-* packages
should *not* be installed by tasks.

This barely means proposing the teams to actually *remove* the
koffice-i18n-* packages from the tasks.

....which seems logical actually (and, sorry to say this, also show
that several tasks are not very well maintained)

> 
> As I've said before, I think coordination can be taken too far if it 
> includes implementing changes over the heads of the language teams 
> involved.

Well, most of the time, languages do not have teams, so well...

However, you're right about those which actually *have* a team.

My intent with this BR was not having it implemented right now, but
rather get as much comments as possible.

Yours will lead me to ask the advice of the people listed in the
"Maintainer" field of the existing tasks.




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