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Re: timeline for beta release

On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 10:31:59AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> > i would like to know how do you plan to support the gtk frontend for the 
> >  future relases of the installer.
> > Actually the frontend seems to work (it's complete and does what it's 
> > supposed to do), the real problem is that gtk over dfb is still 
> > broken/out of date and the only way to perform graphic instalations is 
> > to use an X server.
> > DFB developers are working to add dfb support to the upcoming gtk 2.8 
> > relase, and the gdk port is seen to be stable not before the end of the 
> > summer.
> > What should we do : wait for DFB to be ready and stable before packing 
> > what's needed or simply start shipping an X server inside the cd until 
> > DFB is ready?
> > Maybe we could pack inside the cdrom only the libraries that are needed 
> > for an app to run using a remote X server: this would save up a lot of 
> > space.
> You're right, lack of a way to boot the graphical installer and see how
> it fails and what needs to be worked on is really holding it back to the
> few of you who know how to put the peices together.
> I advise not to wait for upstream updates. Create some udebs of peices
> that work now. Build them by hand from binary bits, or use a hack like
> build-depending on X and copying the binary into your udeb. It's a
> temporary hack, it doesn't have to be pretty, but it has to be easy to
> deal with. Make building the image as easy as dropping these udebs into
> localudebs and running a build target. This will provide incentives to
> the X people to produce a udeb, to me to get the daily builds spitting
> out images for the graphical installer, and to everyone to test and
> start working on it.

If you wanted an X udeb, you just had to ask. I've asked about this
repeatedly in the past when the gtk frontend was brought up, and have only
been met with silence. I can get working on a udeb for the X.Org -6 release
if you want. Patches also accepted of course.

 - David Nusinow

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