Bug#296960: marked as done (pmac G4 AGP 350MHz Install Report)
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From: Jeff Green <greenjb@unk.edu>
Subject: pmac G4 AGP 350MHz Install Report
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:15:25 -0600
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Package: installation-reports
INSTALL REPORT
Debian-installer-version:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/powerpc/daily/
sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso (20050224) (i.e. that's the iso I picked, I'm
guessing a bit on the path)
uname -a: Linux naro 2.6.10 #1 Thu Dec 28 00:10:01 EST 2004 ppc
GNU/Linux
Date: 2005/02/25
Method: How did you install?
CD-ROM netinst
What did you boot off? CD-ROM
If network install, from where?
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
Proxied?
No.
Machine:
Hard Disks: (both Quantum?) WDC WD1200BB-00CAA0 115G and WDC WD136A
13Gb;
Mother Board: Apple G4 whatever c.2000
Cards:
Lan: ??
Sound: ??
Video: ATI something (see below)
Processor: ppc 7400, altivec supported, 350MHz (PowerMac G4 AGP
Graphics)
Memory: 640MB;
Root Device: /dev/hda5
Root Size/partition table:
File Sist. 1K-blocs Used Dispon. Use% Mounted
/dev/hda5 491364 180349 284801 39% /
/dev/hda6 5160576 121164 4777268 3% /usr
/dev/hda9 % /usr/local
/dev/hda10 % /home
/dev/hda11 % /macnsf
Output of lspci:
0000:00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth AGP
0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128
PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS
0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth PCI
0001:10:0d.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154
(rev 05)
0001:11:02.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-7850 (rev 03)
0001:11:04.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128
RE/SG
0001:11:07.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo Mac I/O (rev 02)
0001:11:08.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB
0001:11:09.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB
0001:11:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV23
IEEE-1394 Controller
0002:21:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth Internal PCI
0002:21:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth GMAC
(Sun GEM)
lspci -n:
0000:00:0b.0 0600: 106b:0020
0000:00:10.0 0300: 1002:5046
0001:10:0b.0 0600: 106b:001f
0001:10:0d.0 0604: 1011:0026 (rev 05)
0001:11:02.0 0100: 9004:5078 (rev 03)
0001:11:04.0 0300: 1002:5245
0001:11:07.0 ff00: 106b:0022 (rev 02)
0001:11:08.0 0c03: 106b:0019
0001:11:09.0 0c03: 106b:0019
0001:11:0a.0 0c00: 104c:8019
0002:21:0b.0 0600: 106b:001e
0002:21:0f.0 0200: 106b:0021
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [O]
Install boot loader: [O]
Reboot: [E] (2.6.8) [O] (2.6.10 from ppckernel.org) [O]
(2.6.11 ditto)
Comments/Problems:
The below are notes that I took during the install:
(nb: I'm doing the install again to provide info for Goswin.)
- Used netinst cd from 20050224 (iso date 2-23).
- Suggest putting cd versioning information onto the iso/cd. (I
couldn't find it if it's there.)
- Doesn't seem to have a good place to escape in the std flow to tell
the installer not to do the
boot partition. (forced an escape and didn't risk letting it go to a
default boot loader
install and write over the one there.)
- Indicates that eth0 is the wireless interface and eth1 is the wired
- /usr/local, /home, /macnsf went okay w/o reformatting
- Shell escaping with the installer presents a difficult situation for
mounting other partitions since
/dev/hd[ab]* is not recognized.
- install kernel-2.6.8-powerpc as part of the standard install.
- installed 2.6.10 & 11-rc4 (both from ppckernel.org) kernels onto hda5
because I know what's coming.
- nb: 2.6.10 won't startx, and 2.6.11 will with fb driver config though
w/o working wacom support.
- also (tried to) install sven's 2.6.10-3-powerpc before rebooting but
see below....
- (NEED to sync yaboot.conf again between the two systems.)
- REBOOT into base system:
- kernel 2.6.8 hangs (with the following as the tail of the boot
process:)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536)
VFS: Cannot open root device "hda5" or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
<0>Rebooting in 180 seconds..
- retry with 2.6.10 from ppckernel.org => comes up
- needed to edit /etc/network/interfaces to change eth1 to eth0,
networking wouldn't work otherwise
- In the 'select and install' step, after selecting, the list of
packages flies by and then a dialog
saying one or more packages failed to install.
- moved the /v/c/apt to /usr/v/c/apt, but still had the error (due to
kernel-2.6.10-powerpc bad install)
- removed bad install package (2.6.10-powerpc) and moved /v/c/apt back
to root partition
- Redid the select and install. NO WARNING about space with /v/c/apt on
512MB partition and
auto-starting download of 555MB of debs (desktop, web server, file
server, sql)
- Killed it since I knew it would eventually hang.
- Moved /v/c/apt to /usr/var/cache/apt for the additional space
- Downloading now, thought I'd send this off since it seems like a lot
of info as it is....
- If you want more info regarding the X stuff after getting this up,
then let me know.
- Let me know if you want any info from the logs...
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To: "Jeffrey B. Green" <jbgreen@frontiernet.net>
Cc: Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>,
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Subject: Re: Bug#296960: pmac G4 AGP 350MHz Install Report
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On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 10:28:49AM -0600, Jeffrey B. Green wrote:
>
>
> Sven Luther wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 07:00:34AM -0600, Jeff Green wrote:
> >
> [...snip...]
> >
> >So provided your wacom tablet is indeed the usb one, try :
> >
> > modprobe wacom
>
> Got 2.6.8 to run, see bottom. Yes indeedy. It now shows, did a lsmod
> before and after, excellent. Thankyouthankyouthankyou.
Hehe. Notice that you could edit /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf and change
MODULES=most to MODULES=dep there, in order to have a much smaller initrd
(1.5MB instead of 4 or more). Will quicken your boot time i believe.
> >
> >mount -t cramfs /boot/initrd.img-2.6.(8|10)-powerpc /mnt
> >find /mnt >>file_for_sven
>
> Just for completeness, did it, attached (file_for_sven_initrd).
> Note: need -o loop. Interesting. I took a peek at the discussion that I
Yep, indeed, sorry to have forgotten it.
> believe you and Senior Hess were having, which kind of gets my curiosity
> in what this initrd does for you (me?). What are the basic pros and cons
> for using a initrd?
Well, the idea is to build as much as possible as module, to have the leanest
kernel possible. There is still place for some cleanup, but basically we have
achieved the point where the same kernel can be used on all powerpc machines
(from oldworld to G4 powermacs, passing by a bunch of prep and chrp boxes),
and at the same time fits on a miboot floppy for oldworld. The compressed
kernel is around 1.1MB i think.
The counterpart of this is that the many things are built as modules,
including all filesystem drivers, and the ide/scsi drivers (except the
pmac_ide you need, which is not yet modularizable, so ...). We need an initrd
to boot into, inspect the hardware some, and load the necessary modules to
access the root filesystem, and then takeover it and do the normal boot.
This seemed overkill for me too at first, but over the almost a year of
handling 2.6 powerpc kernel i have come to really appreciate it.
> >Ok, so please fix your (hand-crafted) yaboot.conf, and try again, my guess
> >is
> >that things will immediately get fixed from there.
> >
>
> It worked. I must have not done "something" right in all of the
> install confusion with the hangs and overwriting the boot partition. Thanks
> much. I will try out your 2.6.10-3-powerpc kernel, but for right now I
> do have to step away from the machine for a bit.
Ok. So, case solved, we can close this bug report, and you should open another
one against the xserver-xfree86 if you still have troubles with it.
> thanks again and keep up the good work,
Hehe.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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