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Bug#247478: marked as done (Need clearer proxy question)



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Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 02:24:49 +0200
From: Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
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Subject: Sucessfull install with few nitpicks
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Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Beta4
uname -a: 
Linux XXX 2.4.26-1-686 #3 Sun Apr 18 21:17:21 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-05-03
Method: How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
      install, from where?  Proxied?
Install from the business card CD image. Used a DHCP server for network
access, packages were downloaded from ftp.de.debian.org over an ADSL router.

Machine:
 Medion Midi-Tower
 for the Germans: Aldi PC from 4 years ago
Processor: Pentium III 667
Memory: 128 MB
Root Device: IDE 20 GB HD
Root Size/partition table:
 
/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1

hda1 is a Windows 98 partition

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev c2)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP]
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 1b)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 0e)
0000:00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 20)
0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 07)
0000:00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
0000:00:10.0 Communication controller: Ambient Technologies Inc HaM controllerless modem (rev 02)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 15)


0000:00:00.0 Class 0600: 1106:0691 (rev c2)
0000:00:01.0 Class 0604: 1106:8598
0000:00:07.0 Class 0601: 1106:0686 (rev 1b)
0000:00:07.1 Class 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06)
0000:00:07.3 Class 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 0e)
0000:00:07.4 Class 0600: 1106:3057 (rev 20)
0000:00:0c.0 Class 0401: 1274:1371 (rev 07)
0000:00:0f.0 Class 0200: 10ec:8029
0000:00:10.0 Class 0780: 1813:4000 (rev 02)
0000:01:00.0 Class 0300: 10de:0028 (rev 15)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network:         [O]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:    [O]
Mount partitions:       [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Reboot:                 [O]

Comments/Problems:

The installation was done by the owner of the machine who had never
installed an OS before. But I was helping out rather quickly when
problems occoured, I didn't tested if she would manage to install Debian
herself without my help. And I avoided some of the complexity by
using a DHCP server.

>From a technical pov all went smooth and fine, only a few usability
nitpicks:

The keyboard chooser has as default for a German install something like
"german (no deadkeys)". I don't know how many people will actually
understand the word "deadkeys" but it strongly confuses the others.
I'm not sure if this notion serves any purpose without an explanation.
(Of course in fact it says "deutsch (keine Tottasten)" but the
translation has nothing to do with the problem)

What do the symbols "flash" and "smile" in partman mean? I normally
ignore them and just realised this now. Wouldn't it be better to explain
them? I don't find them intuitive to understand (in fact I still don't
know what they mean, they are not explained in the installation manual
either).

I think the proxy question should have a "if you don't know what I'm
talking about, just try to leave this blank" in it.

I also found some problems in the german translation of base-config but
will mail them directly to the translator.

In general: Great Installer :)

Gruesse,
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Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
www: http://www.djpig.de/

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:38:50 +0200
From: Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>
To: 247478-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: choose-mirror template may be hardly clearer
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The current text is:

 If you need to use a HTTP proxy to access the outside world, enter the
 proxy information here. Otherwise, leave this blank.


This is IMHO a good balance between clear and short
formulation....while keeping low skilled users with us.

The "proxy" term is well widespread, including in the MS-Windows world
so I guess it's likely nearly all users will understand this question.

Hence closing this bug report.


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