# it is important when new users even when they are coming from some # other dist are unable to install Debian severity 274511 important thanks Hi, Colin Watson wrote: > > when you install sarge (or use the rescue system) you get devfs. > > This *so* won't be fixed for sarge. :-) It's quite deeply embedded in I noticed this a few months ago but I unfortunately forgot to file the report and I trusted the d-i folks to get the idea that using devfs would cause serious confusion for newbies. I was reminded by at actual occurance of this problem where *I* needed to tell the person wanting to teach the class what to do when you use devfs since he only knew about /dev/hda etc. > the d-i code. For etch, we'll probably move to something else, but now > is not the time. Couldn't you at least not work around it? d-i can use devfs internally still then... > > However, Linux newbies or people switching from other distributions not > > using devfs (and not knowing that something like this exists or how it > > works - devfs is deprecated after all) are going to be seriously > > confused.... > > By and large, they shouldn't have to care. The installed system doesn't > use devfs, and new users won't have to poke around in the installer > environment too much. People who use some other dist and have their first contact with Debian with the rescue system *will* poke around in the evironment and *will* care. besides that, IIRC the installer (I currently don't have a free partition to test) and the partitioner show the devfs node, which is something new users *will* notice -- and some won't have a clue how to proceed then.. > > The resulting system installed by d-i doesn't so what is the reason > > you use devfs/the desired effect? > > We don't have room for static device nodes, and no alternatives were > available at the time when that part of d-i was originally written. > devfsd wouldn't fit in a number of the images, and would probably only > cause unnecessary confusion. eh? how? Most people will use /dev/hda etc. and people who know use devfs? And is the CD/DVD image place really that tight? I don't know much about that but devfs should fit on CDs/DVDs... Although I don't think this is good it could be left out on floppies then.... Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' rene@debian.org | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73
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