Re: Bug#273986: Quasi-successful Installation - Sarge netinst rc1 on Beige G3
On Thursday, September 30, 2004, at 12:11 AM, Duane Cottle wrote:
Hi Rick,
Sure does. I spent five hours reading your posts since March today.
I take that as the highest of compliments. (<-8) Thank you, sir!
It's
already saved me a lot of trouble testing this stuff. Been working with
boot floppies this evening, as you have.
I just completed a successful install from Sven's daily 2.6 disks. 
There
were some really different/welcome phenomena. I'm sure you'll see 
it, if
you haven't already.
Do you mean the 2.6 floppy disks?  I haven't been able to get them 
to work.  The 2.6 "boot" floppy (the "ofonlyboot" floppy as well) 
starts reading OK but ends with the screen colors inverted and 
hangs.  It never ejects the "boot" floppy or switches to the text 
screen.  Do you know how to get around this?
The 2.4 floppy set works fairly well, though there's still one 
show-stopper problem.  It can't seem to find my IDE disk.  I'll be 
submitting an install report on my experiences soon.
If you're talking about the CDs (businesscard or netinst) I agree 
with you.  2.6 is very nice.  A CD-based 2.6 install from BootX is, 
for an experienced user, almost completely trouble-free.
That said, there are some serious "usability" issues for a novice 
user (Fortunately, these issues are largely shared with the "x86" 
version -- so I have confidence that they will be fixed before 
release.) and the PowerPC sections of the manual need to be 
completely re-written for Sarge.  The current one has lots of 
"Woody"-isms and and not a few "x86"-isms that need to be weeded 
out and re-written for Sarge and PowerPC/Mac.
Do you know how I could test the netboot images. I'm not there yet. Do
they allow mounting a source nfs export? I've been inching my way there
because I'll eventually load up all my cluster nodes in this fashion.
I haven't tried netboot for Linux yet.  (I assume you are talking 
about telling Open Firmware to get its kernel and initrd via tftp 
from the net, then getting the rest via NFS -- or something like 
that.)  I've done it for Solaris on Sparc hardware, but never for 
Linux.  My aversion to Apple's buggy Open Firmware implementations 
is showing, I guess.
If I had to make netboot work, I think I'd try it once on an x86 
box first, just to see how it's "supposed" to work for debian.  
You'll probably want to get some experience with the "mkinitrd(8)" 
command as well.  I expect you'll have to hand-craft your own 
initial ram-disk images.  The current floppy and/or CD-rom initrd 
images won't be much help for a netboot.
I guess I'm not much help there.  You should probably ask the 
various debian mailing-lists if anyone has done a netboot install 
successfully and can help walk you thru the steps.  You should also 
check the Apple Tech-info library knowledge-base for anything on 
net-booting Macs.  And there's always google and his cousins, as a 
last resort.
Let me know what you find out!  There's probably a section to be 
written for the new installation manual in the experience.
Enjoy!
Rick
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