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Bug#272420: Debian Installer RC1 - Fails to configure network



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Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Debian NetInstall (same problem w/BusinessCard) 
Downloaded 9/19/2004

uname -a: <The result of running uname -a on a shell prompt>  Didn't get that 
far
Date: 9/19/2004   15:00
Method: <Booted from CDRom. Attempted install with both NetInstall image and
BusinessCard image

Machine: <Dell Dimension XPS B1000.
Processor: Pentium III
Memory: 256M
Root Device: IDE, 
Root Size/partition table: Didn't get that far

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [E]
Config network:         [E]
Detect CD:              [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives:     [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:    [ ]
Mount partitions:       [ ]
Install base system:    [ ]
Install boot loader:    [ ]
Reboot:                 [ ]

Comments/Problems:

The system has a 3Com 3C905C-TX network card, which is well supported by 
Linux. Apparently it isn't detected or the driver module is not part of the 
Debian installer. I looked at the Debian Installer Manual to find a way to 
manually configure the card as part of the install process, but didn't see an 
entry for this. It may be there - but it isn't obvious from the contents. As 
I did not want to reach a point that I had an unusable system with no way to 
continue, I aborted the install at that point.

This highlights what is (I believe) a serious flaw in the installation 
process. You do *NOT* want someone to repartition their system if it is 
already known that they cannot complete the installation process. It is not a 
serious flaw if you don't detect the hardware (other distributions detect 
this card, but that's still not a serious flaw in the Installer). It *IS* a 
serious flaw if you don't let the user know about this before he destroys 
what is probably a currently working system. If you don't detect any network 
devices on the system, you should tell us that before asking us to 
repartition the system. Ideally, you should allow us to tell you what network 
card we have and even provide a driver if you don't have it available. At the 
very least, we should be told *HOW* to handle this later in the process. As 
it is, after we reach the point that we know you can't configure the 
hardware, you ask us to repartition our hard drives. A user would have to 
have the IQ of an avocado to continue on faith that at some point we're going 
to fix this. You very well may have a downstream way to fix it - for the most 
part your installer is EXCELLENT, so I'm betting you *DO* have a way to fix 
it - but looking at the documentation you give us no reason to believe you 
do.

The new installer is very good. I'm very impressed with it's handling of most 
hardware - even wireless NICs. The developers are definitely to be 
congratulated. It's not quite ready yet, though. Right now, it is possible to 
spend a lot of time, destroy a working system, and end up with a computer 
that is unusable even though it *WAS* usable before we started installation. 
Even a simple "We didn't detect any network hardware. Is a network card 
installed?" could solve this. If you can help us install it, great! If not, 
allow us to gracefully abort the installation before partitioning. Also, the 
documentation should clearly let us know how to recover from this so that we 
can run apt when the time comes. 

You're developing a good system. It's almost there.
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