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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:11:23 -0700 (PDT)
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Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Sarge Test Candidate 1, June 8, 2004, from 
uname -a: Linux sol 2.4.26-1-386 #2 Sat May 1 16:31:24 EST 2004 i686
Date: June 8, 2004, 9:40pm
Method: From installation CD, Debian Sarge Test Candidate 1

Machine: No-name PC
Processor: Duron 800
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: IDE /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table:

sol:/home/dustin# fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System    Mounted on
/dev/hda1   *           1         765     6144831   83  Linux        unused
/dev/hda2             766         831      530145   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda3             832        1469     5124735   83  Linux        /
/dev/hda4            1470        2434     7751362+  83  Linux        unused

Output of lspci:
sol:/home/dustin# lspci
pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]
(rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super
South] (rev 40)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0
controller] (rev 16)
0000:00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0
controller] (rev 16)
0000:00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super
ACPI] (rev 40)
0000:00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M
[Tornado] (rev 78)
0000:00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1
(rev 08)
0000:00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game
Port (rev 08)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA
TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network:         [O]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:    [O]
Mount partitions:       [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Reboot:                 [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it


The installer needs a bit more dumbing down:

When it's time to choose the method to install packages (and the choice
between tasksel, dselect, etc is offered), this is a confusing choice to
present to a novice user.  This question assumes the person installing has
installed many times in the past, and knows which method (eg. tasksel)
they prefer out of the list offered (having tried them all and having a
favorite).  It's like being asked which flavor of Martian ice cream you'd
like to taste, but you've never tasted any Martian ice cream ever. 
Therefore it's all foreign and confusing.

Instead, say something alot like this:

The basic system has been all set up now, and now it's time to install all
the useful end-user applications.

For the sake of convenience, novice users will want to select several
groupings of related software (using a system called "tasksel"), and the
selected groups of software will be installed all together.

Advanced users will probably want to carefully choose which individual
packages they want to install, to have more fine grained control and
conserve hard drive space.  To select from a list of more fine-grained
methods of package installation (like apt-get, dselect, etc.) choose the
second option below.

How would you like to select the software to install?

- Install simpler, more convenient groupings of software (using tasksel)

- Install software with fine grained control, choosing from other
installation methods (like dselect, apt-get, etc.)  For advanced users!

Dustin Harriman

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From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
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Tasksel and the part of base-config that runs it have recently been
rewritten, I suspect the new one addresses your concerns.

see shy jo

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