Bug#251825: Installing sarge PPC kernel with d-i fails with initrd warning
On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 06:59:50PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote:
> > > *** I'm beginning to think that the root of my problems is that the d-i
> > > team is building their own CD's, and never noticing the official CDs
> > > that the debian-cd team is building. So the "official" CDs don't ever
> > > get tested by the d-i team. Perhaps? ***
> >
> > The problem is a bit more complicated. There are CDs built out of sarge
> > and Cds built out of sid. and there is the daily built d-i and the one
> > uploaded to sarge, and ...
> >
> > Actually, the best way to install is to use the beta4 CDs, and then use
> > whatever .deb source you like for the post reboot install.
>
> Thanks! It worked.
>
> I just did a successful install using the "110MB" beta4 d-i netinst CD.
> It did a quick install of the base packages, installed a good kernel,
> and rebooted without trouble. Then came an hour of downloading, and
> even more time of alternating between answering silly questions and
> waiting for silly questions to suddenly pop up. The X server isn't
> working yet, but that isn't your problem.
Notice that you could have used your CD set for the rest of the install,
or even just the first CD you have already burned, so you will get
packages from there, and the rest from the net.
> So I guess there are two issues I'd still like to resolve with the d-i
> and debian-cd teams:
>
> * The version of d-i that's on the debian-cd Sarge CD #1 doesn't
> let you configure a network interface, or pick any network sources
> of .debs, unless you run it in expert mode. This makes problems
> like "no working kernel on the boot CD" fatal, because it won't use
> the net as a backup source of .debs.
>
> * There seems to be no way to successfully install Sarge on a modern
> Mac using the debian-cd CD's. CD #1 doesn't include a working
> kernel, and debian-installer never provides an option to change
> CD's to let me insert a different CD that contains a working
> kernel.
>
> Since presumably the average user is going to install using the global
> debian-cd images, rather than by picking up a beta CD from the d-i
> project, these things should probably get fixed in the global images.
Yep, but this is probably going to happen once the debian-installer is
released in a few days/weeks.
> PS: Jens Schmalzing <j.s@lmu.de> proposed that I just ignore Sarge.
> What's the point of having a testing distribution if nobody tests it
> and reports the bugs in it? Also, I thought 'testing' was going to be
> more stable than the 'unstable' distribution. If there really is no
This has proven to be wrong, often unstable is more stable on x86 at
least. On powerpc testing has the benefit of not suffering version skew
when a new package has a binary: all and a binary: any package, which
has not yet been recompiled on powerpc.
> actual point to Sarge, then rather than misleading newcomers to Debian
> with three distributions, the whole Debian project should just offer
> two: working but ancient (which in my case doesn't even support my
> hardware), and bleeding-edge.
Well, testing has proved to be more of a release management tool than a
real distribution, so it is still usefull.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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