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Bug#212859: marked as done (language-chooser should come before main-menu)

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On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 12:09:45PM +0200, Martin Sj?gren wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:35:50AM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > > I chose the language, which was fine, but I agree (and I think there
> > > may already be a bug) that the Choose language should be a separate
> > > dialog, ala boot-floppies, so people that don't read English have a
> > > chance. If I was presented with Japanese characters on the first line
> > > of main-menu, I surely wouldn't feel confident about choosing it -- I
> > > wouldn't know what the result would be. Another option might be to
> > > display all the other language translations of 'Choose a language'
> > > around the main menu box when the first item is highlighted? Nah.
> > File a bug if there isn't already one. I think it will be difficult to
> > make an installer for which one doesn't even have to know what "Choose
> > your language" means.
> > Probably there should be a way to preselect the installer language and
> > to build custom images for special languages. So a japanese debian based
> > distribution can make a japanese installer for people not know any
> > english.

I agree, a language-specific distribution is desirable, but that
won't happen for all languages, unless Debian becomes wildly more
popular than it currently is.

> This isn't really an issue, since when d-i is finished, we can run with
> priority high, which won't display the main menu. For now, we want to keep
> it at medium for debugging reasons.

How will a language be chosen then? You mean the default installer
will be English-only and will require _no_ user interaction?
Or just that the language chooser will always be presented first
(priority=low) without a main menu choice being necessary?

I think there will be many users who want or need to use the main
menu, but do not understand English. It would be better if the
language chooser was always presented first, and not as a choice from
the main menu; then the main menu can be presented in the user's

I think this even makes sense from a purely aesthetic point of
view. As a boot-floppies user, I felt like a world citizen when I was
presented with a list of choices in a dozen different languages. It
speaks directly but subtly to the idea that here is an operating
system that tries to cross all national boundaries and be globally

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The current installer doesn't display the main menu by default,
so I think this bug can be closed.

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