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Package: installation-reports
INSTALL REPORT
Debian-installer-version: Almost beta 3 (2004-03-12)
uname -a: 2.4.25-1-386 (now a custom kernel)
Date: 2004-03-14
Method: PXE, netboot
Machine: IBM Thinkpad T41
Processor: Centrino (PIII)
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: ATA IDE (Hitachi IC25N040ATCS05-0)
Root Size/partition table: (40.0 GB)
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Mnt Pnt
/dev/hda1 1 496 249952+ 83 Linux /
/dev/hda2 497 992 249984 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda3 993 77520 38570112 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5 993 2930 976720+ 83 Linux /var
/dev/hda6 2931 4868 976720+ 83 Linux /tmp
/dev/hda7 4869 24244 9765472+ 83 Linux /usr
/dev/hda8 24245 33932 4882720+ 83 Linux /usr/src
/dev/hda9 33933 77520 21968320+ 83 Linux /home
Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #1) (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #2) (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #3) (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB2 (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM SMBus Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] (rev 02)
02:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device ac46 (rev 01)
02:00.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device ac46 (rev 01)
02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 101e (rev 03)
02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD: [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [O]
Install boot loader: [O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
Two comments: about disk partitionning and boot manager.
I can read there already is some discussion about ergonomics. I also
got confused about this "Continue" that, _in this particular dialog_,
seems to be a fifth option, but that was okay. If I were really
confused or worried about my data on the disk, I guess I would have
stuck with the four action items, leaving untouch this "Continue" for
which I am not sure about.
I really liked the fact that I could configure everything, from
partition size to esotheric options like noatime, and I also liked the
table that recaps all that (no more "Wait, /dev/hda5 was my /tmp or my
/var?"). However, I remembered configuring each partition took quite
a lot of key presses (tab, arrow, arrow, enter, tab, arrow, enter,
...). I don't remember the exact order, but I feel that "Use this
partition" should be the default, just like "Create a fs", and then
"Determine mount point" if you have just created anything but swap
(sorry for the inexact prompts).
A small quirk: I mis-entered a partition size once ("100" is
interpreted as "100 B" ?? Alright...), so I resized it, and, ... Mmm.
I am sorry I can not remember exactly, but I got the impression that
it created a FS just before trashing it by resizing it, or that it did
something after resizing that I had to undo. I only took a few
seconds, so as a user, I was not upset.
With regards to the bootloader, installing grub took sooo long, that I
thought it crashed, and it defroze just a second before I pushed the
reset button. If it is normal to take such a long time, a "This may
take a few minutes..." [ ;-) ] would be welcome.
Also, and finally, lilo was also installed and I found it confusing,
because I knew grub was already installed (I could rememeber the
scary
+-------------------------+
| grub installation |
| blah blah blah boo bar |
| blah blah blah boo bar |
| blah blah blah boo bar |
| Please enter the frubag |
| (hd0) |
+-------------------------+ ;-)
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:08:43 +0200
From: Anton Zinoviev <anton@lml.bas.bg>
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Subject: Re: Bug#238970: Install report (success)
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Thanks a lot for your installation report. I cloned it and reassigned
the problems you reported to the responsible packages.
On 19.III.2004 at 17:40 you wrote:
>
> I can read there already is some discussion about ergonomics. I also
> got confused about this "Continue" that, _in this particular dialog_,
> seems to be a fifth option, but that was okay. If I were really
> confused or worried about my data on the disk, I guess I would have
> stuck with the four action items, leaving untouch this "Continue" for
> which I am not sure about.
I don't know what will be decided about this.
> However, I remembered configuring each partition took quite a lot of
> key presses (tab, arrow, arrow, enter, tab, arrow, enter, ...). I
> don't remember the exact order, but I feel that "Use this partition"
> should be the default, just like "Create a fs", and then "Determine
> mount point" if you have just created anything but swap
This is possible but only for the newly created partitions. For
partitions that already exist this seams dangerous.
> ("100" is interpreted as "100 B" ?? Alright...),
Probably 100 MB is a better interpretation.
> so I resized it, and, ... Mmm. I am sorry I can not remember
> exactly, but I got the impression that it created a FS just before
> trashing it by resizing it, or that it did something after resizing
> that I had to undo. I only took a few seconds, so as a user, I was
> not upset.
Here is another bug -- for newly created partitions there is no need
to write the changes to the disk.
> With regards to the bootloader, installing grub took sooo long, that I
> thought it crashed, and it defroze just a second before I pushed the
> reset button. If it is normal to take such a long time, a "This may
> take a few minutes..." [ ;-) ] would be welcome.
This happens on floppy-less laptops. This problem needs a fix.
> Also, and finally, lilo was also installed and I found it confusing,
> because I knew grub was already installed (I could rememeber the
> scary
> +-------------------------+
> | grub installation |
> | blah blah blah boo bar |
> | blah blah blah boo bar |
> | blah blah blah boo bar |
> | Please enter the frubag |
> | (hd0) |
> +-------------------------+ ;-)
I am not sure about this. Probably grub has failed to install so the
installer tried with lilo.
Anton Zinoviev
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