Bug#230552: installation report: IBM Thinkpad X23
Package: installation-reports
INSTALL REPORT
Debian-installer-version: 2004-01-31T19:34+0000
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/20040130/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.24-1-386 #1
Tue Jan 6 19:18:04 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-01-31T19:41+0000
Method: How did you install? What did you boot off? If network
install, from where? Proxied?
Machine: IBM Thinkpad X23 without dock, but with a USB cdwriter
Processor: PIII 866 Mhz.
Memory: 256 MiB
Root Device: /dev/hda 20 GiB
Root Size/partition table:
/dev/hda6 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
/dev/hda2 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
/dev/hda3 on /mnt type vfat (rw)
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6 4.6G 573M 3.8G 13% /
/dev/hda2 31M 4.7M 25M 16% /boot
tmpfs 126M 0 126M 0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 399M 392M 6.8M 99% /mnt
Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82830 830 Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82830 830 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
02:03.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 80)
02:03.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 80)
02:05.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics WinModem 56k (rev 01)
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [E]
Detect CD: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [O]
Install boot loader: [O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
DHCP worked, but had trouble with setup of static ip-address.
To this day I've have never been able to figure out how
to fix an ip-address to my card. This in spite that I have
used Debian exclusively for over three years! Sigh!
Postconfiguration are becoming harder and harder with Debian.
It used to be easy. I'm thrilled with the new installer,
but dead tired of cleaning up afterwards.
I have a long list of modules where I don't even use half
of them. And dealing with alternatives, dozens of files
in /etc scattered in many small pieces, traversing dirs
and manpages in desperation to find a simple explanation
of how to configure things in a rather standard way or
even minimally.
Shouldn't it be default to let these modules be out
and easy to add, rather than in and difficult beyond explanation
to remove?
Allthough I refer to modules in particular, it is the general
impression I want to emphasize: That there is just to much in
the base or that it explodes all to easy when installing
(more) software.
I turned off pcmcia, ir and wireless in my laptop
since I never use these, but yet, this is it:
# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
nls_cp437 4284 2 (autoclean)
vfat 8844 1 (autoclean)
fat 27704 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
radeon 89312 0
rfcomm 27104 0 (autoclean)
l2cap 13552 1 (autoclean) [rfcomm]
bluez 27012 1 (autoclean) [rfcomm l2cap]
usb-storage 57888 0 (unused)
scsi_mod 85408 1 [usb-storage]
ds 5908 2
yenta_socket 8832 2
pcmcia_core 35360 0 [ds yenta_socket]
apm 8492 1 (autoclean)
af_packet 11624 1 (autoclean)
uhci 21628 0 (unused)
usbcore 52908 1 [usb-storage uhci]
i810_audio 21436 0
ac97_codec 11444 0 [i810_audio]
soundcore 3268 2 [i810_audio]
e100 41224 1
i810-tco 2932 0 (unused)
i810_rng 2368 0 (unused)
agpgart 39460 1
lp 5952 0 (autoclean)
parport 21800 0 (autoclean) [lp]
ide-cd 27968 0
cdrom 25088 0 [ide-cd]
rtc 6280 0 (autoclean)
ide-disk 12512 4 (autoclean)
ext3 53220 0 (autoclean)
jbd 34852 0 (autoclean) [ext3]
ide-detect 288 0 (autoclean) (unused)
piix 7528 1 (autoclean)
ide-core 94332 4 (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-cd ide-disk ide-detect piix]
unix 13260 13 (autoclean)
When I had another distribution (archlinux), I only had 5 modules!
I don't even know what half of all the above modules are for! Sigh!
It is a lot of work and hassle to figure out which to remove
and which to keep, even though I know what hardware my maschine has.
While installing, a lot less questions was asked than usual,
but I was surprised to see that GRUB was installed in the mbr
without asking first! Not that I mind since it is what I use,
but someone else might not like GRUB or/and have important stuff
in those sectors...
Despite all this grumbling, it is among the best installs I
have done so far on any distribution. It took less than an
hour over fairly fast network (ca. 100 KiB/sec) to install
the base inclusive Laptop-task and X-window-system-task.
Things worked afterwards (albeit not quite as I wanted to
though): Impressive.
But I keep longing for a simpler base, where one
could easily add, rather than a bloated software-
explosion where things are too difficult to manage
or remove even for basic stuff.
In short: Installation is great, but SW-management
so difficult that I don't even know where to begin.
Install logs and other status info is available in /var/log/debian-installer/.
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